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This is one of the first things I install on a new machine after oh-my-zsh

cyberpunk 5y ago
I'm not trying to troll you or be annoying or get off my lawn kinda thing right, but seriously, what the fuck is the point of oh-my-zsh? I still use ksh these days (actually, the openbsd version, even on linux) and it behaves EXACTLY the same way as a bash shell to the uninitiated (ctrl+r, fc -l, etc etc etc).. I have some little shell functions that I use for things, like 'git_branch()' which I use with some aliases (I have >200 shell aliases).. ZSH has a fucking ftp client in it right? And it still just behaves like bash? What does it do on top? Am I missing something? :}
- mustache_kimono 5y ago
  > I have some little shell functions that I use for things, like 'git_branch()' which I use with some aliases (I have >200 shell aliases).. I think you may have just answered your own question -- it includes ready-made shell themes and plugins. Not everyone wants to work that hard (including me!).
- zaphirplane 5y ago
  You are asking the point of omz and saying ksh has the same features as zsh omz is a tool for zsh users, that is its purpose in life Zsh has a lot more features than ksh, the functionality ksh has is the lower bound if it works for you great If you enjoy DIY writing 200 aliases great, zsh like bash is more than path autocomplete and aliases it’s a lot more
  - watersb 5y ago
    I think @cyberpunk is reacting to the complexity of zsh versus more traditional shells. For some value of traditional. I look at zsh alias features and my head explodes a bit. The glob patterns can get so complex, they look like Perl or sendmail config strings.
- pizza 5y ago
  For me, the few plugins I use have really good/sane defaults so any configuration is minimal (can't even remember configuring any of them, tbh, lol). Mostly I use oh-my-zsh not to improve zsh itself [besides the aussiegeek theme :^)], but to make zsh work more harmoniously with other programs - tmux, git, rg, etc.

I'm not trying to troll you or be annoying or get off my lawn kinda thing right, but seriously, what the fuck is the point of oh-my-zsh? I still use ksh these days (actually, the openbsd version, even on linux) and it behaves EXACTLY the same way as a bash shell to the uninitiated (ctrl+r, fc -l, etc etc etc).. I have some little shell functions that I use for things, like 'git_branch()' which I use with some aliases (I have >200 shell aliases).. ZSH has a fucking ftp client in it right? And it still just behaves like bash? What does it do on top? Am I missing something? :}

mustache_kimono 5y ago
> I have some little shell functions that I use for things, like 'git_branch()' which I use with some aliases (I have >200 shell aliases).. I think you may have just answered your own question -- it includes ready-made shell themes and plugins. Not everyone wants to work that hard (including me!).
zaphirplane 5y ago
You are asking the point of omz and saying ksh has the same features as zsh omz is a tool for zsh users, that is its purpose in life Zsh has a lot more features than ksh, the functionality ksh has is the lower bound if it works for you great If you enjoy DIY writing 200 aliases great, zsh like bash is more than path autocomplete and aliases it’s a lot more
- watersb 5y ago
  I think @cyberpunk is reacting to the complexity of zsh versus more traditional shells. For some value of traditional. I look at zsh alias features and my head explodes a bit. The glob patterns can get so complex, they look like Perl or sendmail config strings.
pizza 5y ago
For me, the few plugins I use have really good/sane defaults so any configuration is minimal (can't even remember configuring any of them, tbh, lol). Mostly I use oh-my-zsh not to improve zsh itself [besides the aussiegeek theme :^)], but to make zsh work more harmoniously with other programs - tmux, git, rg, etc.