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Yes, but in the meantime, the cops are allowed to beat, detain and arrest you. While your case rises to a right-wing packed SCOTUS, you will most likely lose y

Yes, but in the meantime, the cops are allowed to beat, detain and arrest you. While your case rises to a right-wing packed SCOTUS, you will most likely lose your job, have issues with any kind of clearance (resisting arrest can be a felony depending on circumstances), face difficulties during any custody battle and possibly be incarcerated. Then if the courts rule in your favor, you receive nothing except your world reduced to ashes. In the US justice system, the process is the punishment.

jjulius 5y ago
This entire hypothetical assumes the law remains in place as the lawsuit works it's way through the system.
treeman79 5y ago
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- throwaway684936 5y ago
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- SirSourdough 5y ago
  I have seen very, very little evidence that reducing the power of the police is a broad right wing goal. Reducing the power of government to regulate business or guns, enact taxes, force participation in markets, sure I think right wing voters want that. I don’t think those are the issues police are generally policing on a regular basis though. Reducing the scope of officers day-to-day policing power or the array of tools they can use to subjugate minorities or others seen as “less than” over common offences like drug use or homelessness? Or their ability to abuse protestors, people filming unethical business practices, people filming inappropriate police interactions? You’d have a lot of convincing to do to show that those are broadly held right wing goals.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  I don't think you'll be able to successfully draw a disjoint "left wing" or "right wing" circle around people who want there to be limits to the police and/or state's authority. It's more or less a universally held position in liberal democracies.
- mindslight 5y ago
  Neither directional wing gets to claim ownership of that goal. Grassroots "left" and grassroots "right" both desire limits on government power. The professional parties both give the goal some acknowledgement, and then turn around and herd people into their sponsors' top-down authoritarian policies. When you make statements like the above, all you're essentially doing is attacking the other tribe based on their entrenched politicians while giving your tribe a pass based on its grassroots. In actuality, if you want reform you need to do the exact opposite and focus on criticizing your own tribe.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  That's a Libertarian goal. For the rest of the right, that's anti-cop woke Marxism.
- jamiek88 5y ago
  For the In-group not the out-group. The kinds of laws being passed by Gerrymander stuffed state legislature’s proves that. Gen-u-wine book burnings in 2022.

jjulius 5y ago

This entire hypothetical assumes the law remains in place as the lawsuit works it's way through the system.

treeman79 5y ago

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throwaway684936 5y ago
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SirSourdough 5y ago
I have seen very, very little evidence that reducing the power of the police is a broad right wing goal. Reducing the power of government to regulate business or guns, enact taxes, force participation in markets, sure I think right wing voters want that. I don’t think those are the issues police are generally policing on a regular basis though. Reducing the scope of officers day-to-day policing power or the array of tools they can use to subjugate minorities or others seen as “less than” over common offences like drug use or homelessness? Or their ability to abuse protestors, people filming unethical business practices, people filming inappropriate police interactions? You’d have a lot of convincing to do to show that those are broadly held right wing goals.
woodruffw 5y ago
I don't think you'll be able to successfully draw a disjoint "left wing" or "right wing" circle around people who want there to be limits to the police and/or state's authority. It's more or less a universally held position in liberal democracies.
mindslight 5y ago
Neither directional wing gets to claim ownership of that goal. Grassroots "left" and grassroots "right" both desire limits on government power. The professional parties both give the goal some acknowledgement, and then turn around and herd people into their sponsors' top-down authoritarian policies. When you make statements like the above, all you're essentially doing is attacking the other tribe based on their entrenched politicians while giving your tribe a pass based on its grassroots. In actuality, if you want reform you need to do the exact opposite and focus on criticizing your own tribe.
pessimizer 5y ago
That's a Libertarian goal. For the rest of the right, that's anti-cop woke Marxism.
jamiek88 5y ago
For the In-group not the out-group. The kinds of laws being passed by Gerrymander stuffed state legislature’s proves that. Gen-u-wine book burnings in 2022.