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Ask HN: Anyone know where Mark Pilgrim went?
I went back to diveintohtml5.org to find something today, and it's gone. Then I checked diveintomark.org, diveintopython3.org, twitter.com/diveintomark...
Is Mark Pilgrim pulling a disappearing act?
- dangoor 15y agoGood question http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-mark-pilgrim/ http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-m...
- kyleslattery 15y agohttp://diveintohtml5.com/ http://diveintohtml5.com/ seems to still be working
- macrael 15y agoI'm not sure the .com is canonical. I don't speak Chineese so I don't really know what is going on with that site. the .org variant and his other pages are all returning 410 Gone.
- deleted 15y ago[deleted]
- loire280 15y agoThe domain for that site is owned by a Chinese university, and the IP address of the server it's hosted on looks like a shared server (there's over 200 sites hosted on that IP). I doubt Mark has anything to do with hosting that site.
- someone13 15y agoOut of sheer curiosity - how do you tell how many sites (and which ones) are hosted on a shared server?
- semuelf 15y agotry http://whois.webhosting.info/ http://whois.webhosting.info/
- inconditus 15y agoYou look up the DNS server: http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=dnsrec&host=diveintohtml.com http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=dnsrec&host=di... Then a whois record on the DNS: http://whois.domaintools.com/domaincontrol.com http://whois.domaintools.com/domaincontrol.com Then a quick Google search shows results like "Note that anything ending in domaincontrol.com or secureserver.net is hosted by godaddy.com and/or wildwestdomains.com! If you have webmail, you can ..."
- bravura 15y agohttp://spyonweb.com/ http://spyonweb.com/ or http://w3who.net/ http://w3who.net/ They are not always 100% complete, but they are free and have good coverage. For example, did you know that ycombinator.com also hosts workatastartup.org? http://spyonweb.com/ycombinator.com http://spyonweb.com/ycombinator.com
- kaneo 15y agoAnother good method is to get the sites IP address (`nslookup` or `dig` are good tools for this. Hell, `ping` will do it for you too). Then head over to bing.com and search for ip:addr. For example: http://www.bing.com/search?q=ip:174.132.225.106 http://www.bing.com/search?q=ip:174.132.225.106
- martey 15y agoMark Pilgrim's website is diveintohtml5.org. If you compare WHOIS information, it is clear that diveintohtml5.com is owned by Xiaokang Liu, not Mark Pilgrim.
- rileywatkins 15y agoI noticed this earlier, but it seems he doesn't actually run the http://diveintohtml5.com http://diveintohtml5.com, according to a whois search. As macrael pointed out, the rest of the .org variants are gone.
- rdhyee 15y agoI'd definitely like to know what happened to Mark Pilgrim and hope he is well. It's still reassuring to know that his websites are still archived by the Internet Archive. (e.g., http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001953/http://diveintohtml5.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001953/http://diveintohtm...)
- chr15 15y agoLooks like one of his last tweets: Hey everybody! Adobe has acquired another batch of awesome products that they will slowly ruin through incompetence and mismanagement! From http://topsy.com/twitter.com/diveintomark/status/120918899599474688 http://topsy.com/twitter.com/diveintomark/status/12091889959...
- thefreehunter 15y agoThe Adobe cartel has kidnapped him!
- bish3al 15y agoOh no! Dude I'm scared... He taught me Python #sadface
- Bo102010 15y agoHis github account is gone as well (http://github.com/diveintomark http://github.com/diveintomark). This is troubling. I'm glad I downloaded Dive Into Python 3, at least.
- patrickaljord 15y agoHis G+ account is gone too https://plus.google.com/111966606387715428604/posts https://plus.google.com/111966606387715428604/posts
- jsdalton 15y agoReddit account deleted too: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/f545e/i_am_a_fourtime_published_author_i_write_free/ http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/f545e/i_am_a_fourtime_...
- libria 15y agoHis python RSS parser, http://www.feedparser.org/ http://www.feedparser.org/ website is down, too.
- rufibarbatus 15y agoIt seems his Github acount has been squatted and is being used as a mirror for his stuff.
- WALoeIII 15y ago_why 2.0.
- deleted 15y ago[deleted]
- nostromo 15y ago> Is Mark Pilgrim pulling a disappearing act? Shouldn't we respect his wishes? If he wants to pull the plug on his online identity, he should be allowed to do so without HN sending out an internet search squad.
- scott_s 15y agoHe expressed no wishes. I think that at this point, people just want to know what happened. That requires doing things like this.
- lizzard 15y agoPeople are worried he might be suicidal and are concerned for him. It is a fairly unusual act for someone with such a strong Internet presence to delete it; I would think it is a warning sign, like giving away all your things.
- solutionyogi 15y agoThat's a really sad news. He hasn't deleted his Hacker News Account yet. He last commented 27 days ago. http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=MarkPilgrim http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=MarkPilgrim [I loved his blog and I wish someone has archive for it. I did not archive it locally because Mark used to write articles about long term archival of his data and I didn't think he would ever delete all his public writings.]
- inconditus 15y agoA July snapshot: http://web.archive.org/web/20110718034434/http://diveintomark.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/20110718034434/http://diveintomar.... The newer ones may be able to be retrieved through Google cache.
- naner 15y agoHe hasn't deleted his Hacker News Account yet. I don't believe you can delete an HN account.
- scq 15y agoI think you can email pg to delete your account.
- deleted 15y ago[deleted]
- ansy 15y agoPG does not typically delete accounts; he just disables the login. All of the comments and submissions are still there under the original name.
- irrumator 15y agoThe poor man's HN account delete: change email, change pass to random gibberish, logout. You're free. Until the next account.
- shareme 15y agoRespect his wishes, even his google accounts/profiles gone.. As far as I know he is still working at Google
- 8ig8 15y agoThe problem is that there are no wishes to respect. I think everyone mainly just wants to know he is okay. If he is and he wants space, I'm sure he'll get it.
- BenLindelof 15y agoWhy would you think that friends and family don't know where he is? Sounds to me like a good example of stalking on the internet.
- alnayyir 15y agoI think Zed lucky-stiff'd him. Which is the proper punitive measure for anybody that actually teaches the usage of JDBC.
- alnayyir 15y agoCome on guys, 0 points (2334 EDT)? You can do better than that. Lets set a 24 hour record for downvotes.
- alnayyir 15y agoHe's making recompense for making JDBC part of the first exercise in a Python book. He'll return from the self-flagellation in two years after some time spent at a monastery. I fully expect his enlightenment will bring much into the world of programming.
- alnayyir 15y agoCommenting here to increase the surface area for you to register your displeasure with my commentary. I'll pass along details of the monastery of the Holier-Than-Thou upon request to downvoters.
- lazugod 15y agoYou are being needlessly insulting to someone who could be in serious trouble.
- alnayyir 15y agoSomeone in serious trouble doesn't have time to throw a digital hissyfit. They're too busy humping it down to Mexico. White people problems, pffft. Edit: Besides, I did some good here! I helped you satisfy your daily quota of self-righteousness. You should be covered for the month by midnight tonight at this rate. You'll be free to not be a sanctimonious cunt until November!
- donnawarellp 15y agoMarica now?
- adriand 15y agoI really hope Mark is okay, and I'm really going to miss Dive Into HTML5. That resource had a truly unique writing style, featured a great design, and was an a absolute treasure trove of valuable information. I was literally on the site just yesterday, reading up on local storage.
- nickzoic 15y agoYeah, one of the few books of that nature which I really enjoyed AND found useful. Thanks, Mark, where-ever you are.
- loire280 15y agoHis contributions to the community were released under liberal licenses and will undoubtedly be widely available tomorrow. Heck, you can `apt-get install diveintopython` on an Ubuntu system. However, a lot of links just got broken across the internet - and his books are popular entry points for novices. Hopefully when whatever is going on in his life cools down, he can transfer the domain names to a responsible custodian.
- sudonim 15y agoMaybe he and _why are in Galt's Gulch? (Any Atlas Shrugged fans?)
- wooswiff 15y agoAs pointed out by user mikelietz on Eric Meyer's site, http://firehose.diveintomark.org/ http://firehose.diveintomark.org/ is still up.
- inportb 15y agoMirrored! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1213413/markpilgrim.htm http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1213413/markpilgrim.htm http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1213413/markpilgrim.xml http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1213413/markpilgrim.xml
- esigler 15y agoSimilar (though not as extreme) behavior has occurred in the past: http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001259/http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/10/18/exit http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001259/http://diveintomar...
- jdnier 15y agoSo check this out: Google "http error code 410" and the second hit is from diveintomark.org circa 2003. """ Let’s all talk about HTTP error code 410. ... Error 410 means Resource gone, as in, a resource used to exist at this location, but now it’s gone. Not only is it gone, but I don’t know (or I don’t want to tell you) where it went. ... Now, there is not a lot of information about error 410... I suppose because it addresses a condition that doesn’t come up very often. Also, we’ve all been brainwashed into believing that all resources should be permanent, which simply isn’t true. """ Google cache: http://bit.ly/qxdBi5 http://bit.ly/qxdBi5 His servers are returning 410 errors but also the same very deliberate HTML: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> <html><head> <title>410 Gone</title> </head><body> <h1>Gone</h1> <p>The requested resource<br />/<br /> is no longer available on this server and there is no forwarding address. Please remove all references to this resource.</p> </body></html> Clearly Mark's invocation of the 410 error is deliberate.
- pingswept 15y agoThere's a precedent for this. He disappeared from his blog for a while in 2004. Check the Google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:diveintomark.org/archives/2004/10/18/exit http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:diveint...
- robbiet480 15y agoJason Scott of textfiles.org has called his local police department for a welfare check... https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/121430050930298880 https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/121430050930298880
- jerf 15y agohttps://twitter.com/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 : "Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring."
- dalton 15y agohttps://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 "Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring."
- shareme 15y agoper Jsaon Scott via his twitter: Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring. So everyone stand down and respect Mark's wishes
- artursapek 15y agoHoly shit, I was just using "Dive Into HTML5" at a hackathon this weekend. It helped a ton, I loved the way that site was designed. This is eery.
- andyfleming 15y ago"Stand down Mark Pilgrim alert. Google, his employer, is on it. Thank you all. Hoping for “he’s just pissed off at Internet” as outcome." Source: http://twitter.com/#!/GlennF/status/121434638282530816 http://twitter.com/#!/GlennF/status/121434638282530816
- samuel 15y agoHe's OK. I don't know how to link a tweet but see textfiles account(https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles) Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring. ... The communication was specifically verified, it was him, and that's that. That was the single hardest decision I've had to make this year.
- joahua 15y agohttps://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 (clicking on "x minutes ago" does it)
- jonathantneal 15y agohttp://diveintohtml5.info/ http://diveintohtml5.info/
- jerrya 15y agoMark is annoyed? How about Mark is goddamn lucky and should be both embarrassed and grateful that he's enough of a character that a chunk of the internet cares about him. Mark is annoyed? It is Mark Pilgrim's right to disappear, but to disappear in a puff of greasy black smoke and 4̶0̶4̶s̶ 410s is just attention whoring and begging people to look for him and call the police. There is no reason for Mark to be annoyed that some caring people looked for him. There is every reason for him to count his blessings. I sincerely wish him the best and hope he recovers from whatever ails him, but please don't tell me how annoyed he is.
- andyfleming 15y ago"Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring." Source: http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440
- unreal37 15y agoApparently it has been verified he is alive. http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 @textfiles (Jason Scott) Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring. @textfiles (Jason Scott) The communication was specifically verified, it was him, and that's that. That was the single hardest decision I've had to make this year.
- mbrubeck 15y agoThis isn't totally unprecedented. In October 2004, Mark stopped blogging after a post titled "Every Exit" which read: "It’s time for me to find a new hobby. Preferably one that doesn’t involve angle brackets. Or computers. Or electricity." [1] That post sat at the top of his previously very active weblog for 18 months until he returned in April 2006. Of course, that time he only stopped posting new material; he didn't delete all his existing resources. But he did disappear from online life for a while. [1]: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Mqb93dpyOtgJ:diveintomark.org/archives/2004/10/18/exit+mark+pilgrim+new+hobby&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Mqb93dp...
- itsnotvalid 15y agoPerhaps he read this http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/the-upside-of-quitting-full-transcript/ http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/the-upside-of-quittin... (discussion at: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3071854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3071854 )
- kenneth_reitz 15y agoHis GitHub projects have been mirrored: https://github.com/diveintomark/ https://github.com/diveintomark/ Dive Into Python 3: http://diveintopython3.ep.io/ http://diveintopython3.ep.io/ GitHub: https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintopython3 https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintopython3 Dive Into HTML5: http://diveintohtml5.ep.io/ http://diveintohtml5.ep.io/ GitHub: https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintohtml5 https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintohtml5
- tuna 15y ago10/4 - never forget. the gayest day on the interwebs. everyone acting like old ladies towards a grown man. [eagle_cries]