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I was just watching a video of about 6 officers killing/pinning down someone and that happened about 2 months before George Floyd's story: https://www.youtube.c

I was just watching a video of about 6 officers killing/pinning down someone and that happened about 2 months before George Floyd's story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybWJe6G5guc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybWJe6G5guc (no-one got charged even if it was caught on video (and not that it matters, but the victim was white)) ... I have see a lot worst before but not when that many officers were involved.

maratbn 5y ago
Wow this is so disturbing to watch the victim alive and well at one moment, and these animals murdering him the next, and over nothing, and in the United States of America. I can't imagine what it's like for this man's kids and family to watch this. This makes me very angry and sad. I hope that one way or another these animals eventually get the justice they deserve. Complete police overhaul is long overdue.
- tormock 5y ago
  It happens daily in the US... and they also shoot a lot of people: https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings (about 1000 per year)... I would love to have a source with all killings by police (not just shootings).... I bet it is a lot more then 1,000 per year.
kingcharles 5y ago
Only a prosecutor can bring charges against the police. How do you think the prosecutor's office is going to get cases if it antagonizes the police that supply them?
- Buttons840 5y ago
  We should have another elected official responsible for bringing charges against police, separate from the prosecutors.
  - worik 5y ago
    We have that in Aotearoa. I thing England does too. It is a help, better than the police investigating themselves. But class issues really come into play. The investigators are all lawyers and have never lived the sort of life where they are bullied by the police, and they have no idea of the dynamics. We can always do better, in this case we are doing better than we were but it is still quite bad
  - jjtheblunt 5y ago
    in the US that's the District Attorney or Attorney General, i think, but forget which is which.
    - kingcharles 5y ago
      District Attorney is the local prosecutor. Attorney General is the state prosecutor, and the boss of the DA.
- geoduck14 5y ago
  The police don't support the DA
  - giraffe_lady 5y ago
    I don't know what meaning "support" is carrying here so it's hard to mount a clear defense. But they work closely together, and each's work depends, to some extent, on the other. So they each have certain incentives, which lead them to generally act in certain ways towards each other. I am comfortable calling that support? Could you suggest another concise, easily understood alternative term, if you have one in mind?
daenz 5y ago
>(and not that it matters, but the victim was white) If BLM wanted to add legitimacy to their cause, especially to those on the fence, they would raise awareness to these non-black deaths in the same way that they do when it's black deaths. Standing against unjustified police violence against any person is not at all against the "black lives matter" premise. In fact, speaking up about it would help people relate to their cause. But, for one reason or another, they seem to stay relatively silent.
- seizethegdgap 5y ago
  https://blavity.com/blm-activists-call-attention-to-graphic-video-of-daniel-shavers-death-at-the-hands-of-arizona-police https://blavity.com/blm-activists-call-attention-to-graphic-... https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e60-9e99feacacf2.html https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e6... https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/mesa-rally-for-justice-held-for-daniel-shaver/75-501627698 https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/mesa-rally-...
  - daenz 5y ago
    I carefully chose the words "relatively silent." As in, relative to when the victim is black. I don't see how anyone can argue that it's anywhere near the same level of intensity for non-black vs black.
    - jjulius 5y ago
      Huh, it's really weird that a group focused on eradicating systemic racism would choose to highlight the racist moments. How strange.
      - car_analogy 5y ago
        Or, a group focused on accusations of racism would choose to cherry-pick incidents to give the perception of racism, and diverting attention away from incidents that might dispel this perception.
californical 5y ago
Wow, truly incredible and sad.
- tormock 5y ago
  I have seen many similar videos that haven't resulted in prosecutions... some a lot worst, sadly.
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maratbn 5y ago

Wow this is so disturbing to watch the victim alive and well at one moment, and these animals murdering him the next, and over nothing, and in the United States of America. I can't imagine what it's like for this man's kids and family to watch this. This makes me very angry and sad. I hope that one way or another these animals eventually get the justice they deserve. Complete police overhaul is long overdue.

tormock 5y ago
It happens daily in the US... and they also shoot a lot of people: https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings (about 1000 per year)... I would love to have a source with all killings by police (not just shootings).... I bet it is a lot more then 1,000 per year.

kingcharles 5y ago

Only a prosecutor can bring charges against the police. How do you think the prosecutor's office is going to get cases if it antagonizes the police that supply them?

Buttons840 5y ago
We should have another elected official responsible for bringing charges against police, separate from the prosecutors.
- worik 5y ago
  We have that in Aotearoa. I thing England does too. It is a help, better than the police investigating themselves. But class issues really come into play. The investigators are all lawyers and have never lived the sort of life where they are bullied by the police, and they have no idea of the dynamics. We can always do better, in this case we are doing better than we were but it is still quite bad
- jjtheblunt 5y ago
  in the US that's the District Attorney or Attorney General, i think, but forget which is which.
  - kingcharles 5y ago
    District Attorney is the local prosecutor. Attorney General is the state prosecutor, and the boss of the DA.
geoduck14 5y ago
The police don't support the DA
- giraffe_lady 5y ago
  I don't know what meaning "support" is carrying here so it's hard to mount a clear defense. But they work closely together, and each's work depends, to some extent, on the other. So they each have certain incentives, which lead them to generally act in certain ways towards each other. I am comfortable calling that support? Could you suggest another concise, easily understood alternative term, if you have one in mind?

daenz 5y ago

>(and not that it matters, but the victim was white) If BLM wanted to add legitimacy to their cause, especially to those on the fence, they would raise awareness to these non-black deaths in the same way that they do when it's black deaths. Standing against unjustified police violence against any person is not at all against the "black lives matter" premise. In fact, speaking up about it would help people relate to their cause. But, for one reason or another, they seem to stay relatively silent.

seizethegdgap 5y ago
https://blavity.com/blm-activists-call-attention-to-graphic-video-of-daniel-shavers-death-at-the-hands-of-arizona-police https://blavity.com/blm-activists-call-attention-to-graphic-... https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e60-9e99feacacf2.html https://www.nola.com/opinions/article_4f6138fe-ea8c-551b-9e6... https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/mesa-rally-for-justice-held-for-daniel-shaver/75-501627698 https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/mesa-rally-...
- daenz 5y ago
  I carefully chose the words "relatively silent." As in, relative to when the victim is black. I don't see how anyone can argue that it's anywhere near the same level of intensity for non-black vs black.
  - jjulius 5y ago
    Huh, it's really weird that a group focused on eradicating systemic racism would choose to highlight the racist moments. How strange.
    - car_analogy 5y ago
      Or, a group focused on accusations of racism would choose to cherry-pick incidents to give the perception of racism, and diverting attention away from incidents that might dispel this perception.

californical 5y ago

Wow, truly incredible and sad.

tormock 5y ago
I have seen many similar videos that haven't resulted in prosecutions... some a lot worst, sadly.

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