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>There is no Android and PC that I can buy where KDE connect is just installed and works. That's the difference. Sure, but now we're moving the goal posts and

>There is no Android and PC that I can buy where KDE connect is just installed and works. That's the difference. Sure, but now we're moving the goal posts and arguing about semantics. The original comment I replied to, said Apple features are only achievable due to their ecosystem and I disproved him, that's it. The fact that the Linux community doesn't have billions of $ for marketing and commercialization of their products is a separate issue that's been the thorn of Linux adoption on the desktop since forever. >I buy a new iPad and MacBook, log in with my iCloud account, and boom, it works. Unfortunately, some people in the world that don't earn western wages can't afford to own several Apple products worth multiple times their salaries to enjoy the ecosystem, so it's great that FOSS alternatives exist that do the same things so those less fortunate can enjoy them at a fraction of the cost.

jedberg 5y ago
> The original comment I replied to, said Apple features are only achievable due to their ecosystem No, they said those features are only achievable on Apple systems by Apple because of they close everyone else out of their ecosystem. > so it's great that FOSS alternatives exist that do the same things so those less fortunate can enjoy them at a fraction of the cost. I agree 1000%, but that's not what we were talking about.
Damogran6 5y ago
Your comment bothered me, and I wanted to retort, but couldn't determine a way to do so without being a dickhead. I have the western income and I have multiple Apple products as a result, and I should really appreciate that more than I do.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  >Your comment bothered me, and I wanted to retort, but couldn't determine a way to do so without being a dickhead. Why did my comment bother you? I did not insult anyone.
  - Damogran6 5y ago
    No, it was me feeling guilty. Wasn’t anything you did.
    - knolan 5y ago
      When I was a young and broke student I had more time to tinker with old computers and free (and pirated) software and get things fun things working. I also hated on Apple. Now that I have a comfortable middle class western lifestyle I can appreciate the appliance nature of Apple’s products. I use them for work because they are reliable and do indeed just work. In the lab I can still tinker with computers but I try to leave that to my students so they can have the same wonderful experience I had. I haven’t build a PC in a few years and hope to build something new in a couple of years. It’s not a monoculture just because I prefer Macs for getting work done and I’m not going to apologise for my situation. Apple know their users and I’m happy that they can meet most of my needs.
      - Damogran6 5y ago
        I'm in a similar situation...Whats worse is when you compare the Best of Apple with the best of the PC side of things. My work Dell precision is a science workstation desktop replacement...2 hours of battery life I can understand, fuel efficiency wasn't anywhere in the top ten list of priorities. But it has ZERO sleep modes. There are 4 exposed to the OS in most cases, non are supported by the BIOS...the only thing I can reasonably do is 'hibernate with lid close.' The mac is half the price, half the weight, twice the CPU...I'm a little disappointed in Dell and sad that my office requires it use. But in the context of this thread, I really need a dose of humility and a recognition of what I have due to my geography.

jedberg 5y ago

> The original comment I replied to, said Apple features are only achievable due to their ecosystem No, they said those features are only achievable on Apple systems by Apple because of they close everyone else out of their ecosystem. > so it's great that FOSS alternatives exist that do the same things so those less fortunate can enjoy them at a fraction of the cost. I agree 1000%, but that's not what we were talking about.

Damogran6 5y ago

Your comment bothered me, and I wanted to retort, but couldn't determine a way to do so without being a dickhead. I have the western income and I have multiple Apple products as a result, and I should really appreciate that more than I do.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>Your comment bothered me, and I wanted to retort, but couldn't determine a way to do so without being a dickhead. Why did my comment bother you? I did not insult anyone.
- Damogran6 5y ago
  No, it was me feeling guilty. Wasn’t anything you did.
  - knolan 5y ago
    When I was a young and broke student I had more time to tinker with old computers and free (and pirated) software and get things fun things working. I also hated on Apple. Now that I have a comfortable middle class western lifestyle I can appreciate the appliance nature of Apple’s products. I use them for work because they are reliable and do indeed just work. In the lab I can still tinker with computers but I try to leave that to my students so they can have the same wonderful experience I had. I haven’t build a PC in a few years and hope to build something new in a couple of years. It’s not a monoculture just because I prefer Macs for getting work done and I’m not going to apologise for my situation. Apple know their users and I’m happy that they can meet most of my needs.
    - Damogran6 5y ago
      I'm in a similar situation...Whats worse is when you compare the Best of Apple with the best of the PC side of things. My work Dell precision is a science workstation desktop replacement...2 hours of battery life I can understand, fuel efficiency wasn't anywhere in the top ten list of priorities. But it has ZERO sleep modes. There are 4 exposed to the OS in most cases, non are supported by the BIOS...the only thing I can reasonably do is 'hibernate with lid close.' The mac is half the price, half the weight, twice the CPU...I'm a little disappointed in Dell and sad that my office requires it use. But in the context of this thread, I really need a dose of humility and a recognition of what I have due to my geography.