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Non-debian would be better, no? Never had an issue with Ubuntu.

by hhh 5y ago

duskwuff 5y ago
Ubuntu is very closely related to Debian. I'm not sure I'd count it as a "different distribution" so much as "a weird variant of Debian".
- OJFord 5y ago
  Yes but Raspbian is also 'a weird variant of Debian' by that line right? I think you're in agreement with GP; I find a similar thing coming up with Arch & Manjaro (an Arch derivative) - for almost any purpose when someone says 'Arch' it applied to Manjaro too (just less often vice versa). So, yes, 'non-Debian' which (Debian) includes Raspbian, not 'non-Raspbian' which (Raspbian) precludes Debian.
  - freedomben 5y ago
    Yeah I agree, I consider Raspbian "a weird variant of Debian." They add a bunch of packages (some that override upstream debian) and they have some custom software, plus a lot of other customization. Raspbian is probably closer to Debian than Ubuntu is, but it's still quite clear that you're not on Debian.
    - pabs3 5y ago
      Raspian, RaspberryPi OS, Ubuntu etc are all known as derivatives of Debian, since they are directly or indirectly derived from Debian. https://www.debian.org/derivatives/ https://www.debian.org/derivatives/ https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives
- Maursault 5y ago
  Ubuntu is Debian (architecturally), plus the stuff Ubuntu added, so I believe the latter is more practically accurate.
  - hhh 5y ago
    Raspbian is as well, which is why making the statement about it being weird on non-debian seems more apt (ha!) than saying non-Raspbian.
hda111 5y ago
I also never had an issue with Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi. They even provide packages to update the EEPROM. But it doesn’t surprise me that it just works since Ubuntu is a commercial distro. They even sell products for the Raspberry Pi version.
- freedomben 5y ago
  How soon after a new Pi model comes out do you try? If you wait 6 months then yes, Ubuntu tends to work fine (although you do still need a specific build. You can't just download a generic one). I used to use Ubuntu MATE on pi, but when the Pi4 came out it took a long time before it was supported.
  - hhh 5y ago
    I tried within a week or two of the cm4 releasing. This may be unfair due to the similarities of the pi4 and the cm4. I’ll know better when pi5 releases. I heavily utilize these in my work, and have great incentive to have new pi’s supported on Ubuntu immediately:)

Non-debian would be better, no? Never had an issue with Ubuntu.

by hhh 5y ago

Non-debian would be better, no? Never had an issue with Ubuntu.

Ubuntu is very closely related to Debian. I'm not sure I'd count it as a "different distribution" so much as "a weird variant of Debian".

OJFord 5y ago
Yes but Raspbian is also 'a weird variant of Debian' by that line right? I think you're in agreement with GP; I find a similar thing coming up with Arch & Manjaro (an Arch derivative) - for almost any purpose when someone says 'Arch' it applied to Manjaro too (just less often vice versa). So, yes, 'non-Debian' which (Debian) includes Raspbian, not 'non-Raspbian' which (Raspbian) precludes Debian.
- freedomben 5y ago
  Yeah I agree, I consider Raspbian "a weird variant of Debian." They add a bunch of packages (some that override upstream debian) and they have some custom software, plus a lot of other customization. Raspbian is probably closer to Debian than Ubuntu is, but it's still quite clear that you're not on Debian.
  - pabs3 5y ago
    Raspian, RaspberryPi OS, Ubuntu etc are all known as derivatives of Debian, since they are directly or indirectly derived from Debian. https://www.debian.org/derivatives/ https://www.debian.org/derivatives/ https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives
Maursault 5y ago
Ubuntu is Debian (architecturally), plus the stuff Ubuntu added, so I believe the latter is more practically accurate.
- hhh 5y ago
  Raspbian is as well, which is why making the statement about it being weird on non-debian seems more apt (ha!) than saying non-Raspbian.

hda111 5y ago

I also never had an issue with Ubuntu on Raspberry Pi. They even provide packages to update the EEPROM. But it doesn’t surprise me that it just works since Ubuntu is a commercial distro. They even sell products for the Raspberry Pi version.

freedomben 5y ago
How soon after a new Pi model comes out do you try? If you wait 6 months then yes, Ubuntu tends to work fine (although you do still need a specific build. You can't just download a generic one). I used to use Ubuntu MATE on pi, but when the Pi4 came out it took a long time before it was supported.
- hhh 5y ago
  I tried within a week or two of the cm4 releasing. This may be unfair due to the similarities of the pi4 and the cm4. I’ll know better when pi5 releases. I heavily utilize these in my work, and have great incentive to have new pi’s supported on Ubuntu immediately:)