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> Have more children. Have them early if possible and condemn them to overcome all the mistakes young parents (and possibly economically challenged parents, wi

> Have more children. Have them early if possible and condemn them to overcome all the mistakes young parents (and possibly economically challenged parents, with many more mouths to feed) make also due to lack of experience

echelon 5y ago
That's a grim take. We wouldn't be here if our ancestors didn't face hardship. Our evolutionary cousins (eg. gazelle) are still being born and hunted on the savannah and many will get eaten alive. I think we've got it pretty good, all things considered. When I had no money I didn't wish that I'd never been born. My parents didn't have college degrees or loads of resources. Wishing for an ideal environment to raise children is pretty much a modern invention that doesn't correlate to history and nature. Life isn't as bad as the news and the zeitgeist keep telling us. People are paid to make us feel this way.
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  > That's a grim take reality is grim > Our evolutionary cousins (eg. gazelle) are still being born and hunted because they have no choice. We do. > When I had no money I didn't wish that I'd never been born "make a lot of poor kids. They won't wish to never be born" doesn't sound like good advertisement to me... > My parents didn't have college degrees or loads of resources That's why they had a lot of kids. I am not talking about "reverse darwinism" which is BS, but about the fact that even the gazelle you talked about know that focusing on a few individuals is the key to helping your offspring. They make a lot of them, so that some of them sill survive. It's very simple logic. > Wishing for an ideal environment to raise children is pretty much a modern invention that doesn't correlate to history and nature. We agree on this: you have to be young and reckless to not consider all the things that could go wrong before actually doing them.

echelon 5y ago

That's a grim take. We wouldn't be here if our ancestors didn't face hardship. Our evolutionary cousins (eg. gazelle) are still being born and hunted on the savannah and many will get eaten alive. I think we've got it pretty good, all things considered. When I had no money I didn't wish that I'd never been born. My parents didn't have college degrees or loads of resources. Wishing for an ideal environment to raise children is pretty much a modern invention that doesn't correlate to history and nature. Life isn't as bad as the news and the zeitgeist keep telling us. People are paid to make us feel this way.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
> That's a grim take reality is grim > Our evolutionary cousins (eg. gazelle) are still being born and hunted because they have no choice. We do. > When I had no money I didn't wish that I'd never been born "make a lot of poor kids. They won't wish to never be born" doesn't sound like good advertisement to me... > My parents didn't have college degrees or loads of resources That's why they had a lot of kids. I am not talking about "reverse darwinism" which is BS, but about the fact that even the gazelle you talked about know that focusing on a few individuals is the key to helping your offspring. They make a lot of them, so that some of them sill survive. It's very simple logic. > Wishing for an ideal environment to raise children is pretty much a modern invention that doesn't correlate to history and nature. We agree on this: you have to be young and reckless to not consider all the things that could go wrong before actually doing them.