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> If you arrive to the railway station 10 minutes +-2 minutes before your train leaves you are using time. In a very real sense. In robotics we sync multiple co

by ctvo 5y ago

> If you arrive to the railway station 10 minutes +-2 minutes before your train leaves you are using time. In a very real sense. In robotics we sync multiple computers on the robot to about miliseconds, that is using time. In a real sense. Why are you in a very specific technical discussion correcting what is obvious? Yes, you're using time. You're not using time at the precision this company is targeting. At that precision, there are few current use cases, but if they make it cheaper, there will be more. What's there to argue here? You're offended you're not being included as users of time? "We're lunching more accurate satellite imaged maps. The current users are largely nation states and niche industries due to its cost. This will enable more map use cases" I use Google Maps all the time. I used it for my last trip! How dare you.

krisoft 5y ago
> You're offended you're not being included as users of time? Please refrain from personal attacks. It is unecessary and doesn’t add to the conversation. Thank you. > I use Google Maps all the time. I used it for my last trip! How dare you. Do note that your example didn’t say “nobody uses maps”. If an imaginary salesperson would say “nobody uses maps” I would call bulshit on that too. > Yes, you're using time. Great, so the company representative should simply not say “nobody is using time”. And the commenter I was responding to shouldn’t say that applications which are fine with a lower accuracy “aren't ‘using time’ in any real sense”. Heck, all I know maybe nanosecond accuracy is where the bees knee is, and everyone is going to be amazed by the awesome new applications it is going to enable. But you don’t need to disregard all the history of timekeeping and all the current applications to make that point. On 28 April 1789 a mutiny broke out on HMS Bounty. The ship’s former captain, departing on a rowboat, demanded that the mutineers give him K2 the ship’s chronometer. The mutineers refused, because the chronometer was worth about as much as the whole ship, and they needed it for their onward navigation. Somebody should have told them that they are not using time in any real sense. Probably they would have laughed at that idea.

by ctvo 5y ago

krisoft 5y ago

> You're offended you're not being included as users of time? Please refrain from personal attacks. It is unecessary and doesn’t add to the conversation. Thank you. > I use Google Maps all the time. I used it for my last trip! How dare you. Do note that your example didn’t say “nobody uses maps”. If an imaginary salesperson would say “nobody uses maps” I would call bulshit on that too. > Yes, you're using time. Great, so the company representative should simply not say “nobody is using time”. And the commenter I was responding to shouldn’t say that applications which are fine with a lower accuracy “aren't ‘using time’ in any real sense”. Heck, all I know maybe nanosecond accuracy is where the bees knee is, and everyone is going to be amazed by the awesome new applications it is going to enable. But you don’t need to disregard all the history of timekeeping and all the current applications to make that point. On 28 April 1789 a mutiny broke out on HMS Bounty. The ship’s former captain, departing on a rowboat, demanded that the mutineers give him K2 the ship’s chronometer. The mutineers refused, because the chronometer was worth about as much as the whole ship, and they needed it for their onward navigation. Somebody should have told them that they are not using time in any real sense. Probably they would have laughed at that idea.