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I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic. A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (
by makecheck 18y ago
I agree with the conclusion, but not the logic.
A much more likely cause for IE supremacy is an established set of enterprise "web" applications, where these (badly written) "web" applications are so broken outside IE that they might as well be Win32.
If executives sank money into applications that now run the business, and find that IE keeps those applications running, they're more likely to establish an easy policy like "IE only". They are not likely to spend money to "fix" the "problem" that non-IE users "created".
As ideal as it would be to inform executives that it is Microsoft's broken code that actually created the problem of bringing in new browsers, I guarantee they won't see it that way.
- josefresco 18y agoCan you point to at least one "established set of enterprise "web" applications" that supports this claim?
- edw519 18y agoEvery enterprise has their own. It's called their "intranet". Many written for ie only (they may not have even realized it at the time). No one wants to rewrite their intranet just to support a marginally better browser.
- whatusername 18y agoAs far as I can tell - IBM have finally finished porting all of their intranet apps to support firefox. So there 350,000 users or so..
- aaronblohowiak 18y agoestablished internal projects, in my experience, tend to target the browsers used by the employees of the company. a lot of shops are still windows-only shops, and so there is no cost-savings gained from worrying about support for other browsers.
- michaelmurphy 18y agoI think the other two responses to this comment are spot-on. Lots of corporate intranets and internal applications are IE-only by default. It's certainly not justifiable from a cost standpoint to rewrite those. Aside from corporate users, individual consumers who aren't necessarily computer-savvy (like my parents) don't have the knowledge (or desire) to download additional software and install extensions, plug-ins, etc. They go with the default browser of their O/S.
- Retric 18y agoBooz Allen Hamilton > help.bah.com it's an internal site who's basic navigation only works on IE. They even put out a memo to avoid upgrading to the newest IE because of compatibility issues.
- adamc 18y agoSure, those written by Microsoft. You can use Exchange's web interface, or Sharepoint, in browsers other than IE, but the experience is significantly degraded.
- timae 18y agohttps://www.pwccomperio.com https://www.pwccomperio.com (go there in any browser except IE). This is pretty much the case for all PwC webapps. PwC = >25,000 U.S. employees.
- MHollender 18y agoWait. Why would an enterprise want to make an only internally used application a web application? It both takes longer to write and usually is slower to use (very mouse-oriented, unless designed really smartly) than a good desktop application. Of course I'm not talking about those kind of desktop applications where someone pulls a database table onto a form in Delphi or Visual Studio - those aren't better or written faster than web applications. No, what I mean is that most enterprises have an ERP system which comes with it's own, quite efficient domain-specific language and development environment, so when they figure out that f.e. they need a system to reserve projectors for presentations, the easiest way is to develop it right inside the ERP system. Or use something similar to these efficient ERP development environments, such as FoxPro. Why would you put your application on the web when the point isn't to be able to use it from a netcafe, but it is used only by people sitting in an office and keying in data all day long?
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