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>It treats its power users like kids It's worse than that: Google's power user features used to work reliably and repeatably. Now Google tries even harder to f

>It treats its power users like kids It's worse than that: Google's power user features used to work reliably and repeatably. Now Google tries even harder to figure out what you "want" and filters you results invisibly for you. You can't turn this feature off, and are are unable to easily or obviously avoid it. I've recently noticed that Youtube has a similar feature. If you search for a video, you'll only get a small number of results before Youtube will start showing you "recommendations" which are only somewhat related to your original search. Somewhat ironically, the only way to avoid this is to query via Google (site:youtube.com [term]) where you will get a much larger set of results. It just seems that raw search is disappearing, and "recommendation engines" are appearing everywhere.

zeruch 5y ago
"Now Google tries even harder to figure out what you "want" and filters you results invisibly for you. You can't turn this feature off, and are are unable to easily or obviously avoid it." This. So much this. And it is so...bloody...annoying.
mohanmcgeek 5y ago
> Somewhat ironically, the only way to avoid this is to query via Google (site:youtube.com [term]) where you will get a much larger set of results. Even more ironically and many here would have experienced this themselves: the best way to find something on YouTube is to use Bing
- erklik 5y ago
  > the best way to find something on YouTube is to use Bing Weirdly the same is the case for reddit. What I really want I guess is, a search engine, where i can provide you sites to index, and when I am searching, I only search through those sites. That's it.
  - etherealG 5y ago
    What about discovery of sites you don’t know about. The whole purpose of he internet is that we’re all connected, but you seem to want only an extended private network.
    - mohanmcgeek 5y ago
      Google fails miserably over there too. First page is full of results from a handful of sites.
    - erklik 5y ago
      A surprsingly large amounts of time I use Google, is to mainly to search on either reddit, stackoverflow, hackernews etc. Even searching for other sites is helpful using those sites i.e. searching for developer blogs gets far better results if I add reddit to it. I think Google has it's place. However, I also think that an additional search engine like the one I described would be a very nice and useful tool. At least for me.
JohnFen 5y ago
> Now Google tries even harder to figure out what you "want" and filters you results invisibly for you. Google trying to interpret what you want is, in my opinion, the largest reason that the search has become so bad. It guesses very poorly, and I end up having to try to guess what the magic incantation is to get it to give the what I'm searching for.

zeruch 5y ago

"Now Google tries even harder to figure out what you "want" and filters you results invisibly for you. You can't turn this feature off, and are are unable to easily or obviously avoid it." This. So much this. And it is so...bloody...annoying.

mohanmcgeek 5y ago

> Somewhat ironically, the only way to avoid this is to query via Google (site:youtube.com [term]) where you will get a much larger set of results. Even more ironically and many here would have experienced this themselves: the best way to find something on YouTube is to use Bing

erklik 5y ago
> the best way to find something on YouTube is to use Bing Weirdly the same is the case for reddit. What I really want I guess is, a search engine, where i can provide you sites to index, and when I am searching, I only search through those sites. That's it.
- etherealG 5y ago
  What about discovery of sites you don’t know about. The whole purpose of he internet is that we’re all connected, but you seem to want only an extended private network.
  - mohanmcgeek 5y ago
    Google fails miserably over there too. First page is full of results from a handful of sites.
  - erklik 5y ago
    A surprsingly large amounts of time I use Google, is to mainly to search on either reddit, stackoverflow, hackernews etc. Even searching for other sites is helpful using those sites i.e. searching for developer blogs gets far better results if I add reddit to it. I think Google has it's place. However, I also think that an additional search engine like the one I described would be a very nice and useful tool. At least for me.

JohnFen 5y ago

> Now Google tries even harder to figure out what you "want" and filters you results invisibly for you. Google trying to interpret what you want is, in my opinion, the largest reason that the search has become so bad. It guesses very poorly, and I end up having to try to guess what the magic incantation is to get it to give the what I'm searching for.