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People not being able to own homes is not "healthy". Having to pay 50% of your salary to landlords is not "healthy". It is concentration of wealth, it is the ve

People not being able to own homes is not "healthy". Having to pay 50% of your salary to landlords is not "healthy". It is concentration of wealth, it is the very definition of precarity. Unless your hope is to see a collapse of societies, things go really bad when people can't afford fundamental needs.

qeternity 5y ago
You replied without understanding my comment. Let me pose the question back to you: if everyone can comfortably afford food, housing and basic necessities, what is going to cause population growth to level off? Your characterization of bad things happening is exactly my point - you’re just failing to understand that I’m saying that’s the healthy part.
- white_dragon88 5y ago
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- orangecat 5y ago
  if everyone can comfortably afford food, housing and basic necessities, what is going to cause population growth to level off? This is exactly backwards; both across and within countries, richer people have fewer children.
  - qeternity 5y ago
    The world cannot support 10 billion rich people (by current standards). High prices are one of a number of expected natural feedback mechanisms. You’re pointing to a correlation which has no bearing on the future.
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  As the other response to you shows, you're the one missing the point. Population growth massively slows down the more your basic needs are met. Countries that have high children counts are countries where the solution to actually reaching wealth is multiplying until few of them die, or one of them ends up making a lot of money (relative to the country they live in).
  - qeternity 5y ago
    > Population growth massively slows down the more your basic needs are met. No, this is the point you’re missing: your presumption is predicated on being able to meet everyone’s basic needs cheaply. What I’m saying is that this is not possible, and that high prices are the feedback mechanism.

qeternity 5y ago

You replied without understanding my comment. Let me pose the question back to you: if everyone can comfortably afford food, housing and basic necessities, what is going to cause population growth to level off? Your characterization of bad things happening is exactly my point - you’re just failing to understand that I’m saying that’s the healthy part.

white_dragon88 5y ago
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orangecat 5y ago
if everyone can comfortably afford food, housing and basic necessities, what is going to cause population growth to level off? This is exactly backwards; both across and within countries, richer people have fewer children.
- qeternity 5y ago
  The world cannot support 10 billion rich people (by current standards). High prices are one of a number of expected natural feedback mechanisms. You’re pointing to a correlation which has no bearing on the future.
ohgodplsno 5y ago
As the other response to you shows, you're the one missing the point. Population growth massively slows down the more your basic needs are met. Countries that have high children counts are countries where the solution to actually reaching wealth is multiplying until few of them die, or one of them ends up making a lot of money (relative to the country they live in).
- qeternity 5y ago
  > Population growth massively slows down the more your basic needs are met. No, this is the point you’re missing: your presumption is predicated on being able to meet everyone’s basic needs cheaply. What I’m saying is that this is not possible, and that high prices are the feedback mechanism.