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It's not about who's worse, it's about what we can afford to do. As Dan Carlin said, what's terrible about authoritarian countries is that fighting them forces
by xdennis 5y ago
It's not about who's worse, it's about what we can afford to do.
As Dan Carlin said, what's terrible about authoritarian countries is that fighting them forces you to act like them. If we set ourselves boundaries only we follow, we're doomed to lose.
Following the regular process just gives an advantage to the enemy because he knows he can just put all his foreign assets in the hands of private oligarchs and we'll have our hands tied behind our backs by our own noble principles.
If we don't act bluntly (like confiscating oligarch wealth) we have no leverage at all.
We _can_ afford to give rapists proper due process because society still functions afterwards. But look at what happened during the height of Mafia power. Both Italy and the US had to change the regular due process (RICO, Maxi Trial) because it cannot work when individuals are conspiring behind the scene.
And Russia functions as a giant mafia state.
- soraminazuki 5y ago> Following the regular process just gives an advantage to the enemy because he knows he can just put all his foreign assets in the hands of private oligarchs and we'll have our hands tied behind our backs by our own noble principles. Have the courts freeze the assets of the accused when there is that risk.
- spacemanmatt 5y agoI'm pretty sure the President is already authorized to sanction these oligarchs. I'm confident the QAnon members of congress and senate would be suing Biden on their behalf right now if they thought it would even be a pain in his neck. (It wouldn't be)
- soraminazuki 5y agoMass authorization to strip one's rights without trial isn't due process and the QAnon stuff is a non-sequitur. The OP claimed that due process is impossible, so I showed how it can work. Funding or plotting genocide would probably be a serious crime anyways, so why not have a proper trial instead of cutting corners? A functioning justice system is the bedrock of democracy, and it's the last place where you'd want to be making shortcuts. Not only would missteps cause reputational damage for democracies, it's going to ultimately hurt you too.
- spacemanmatt 5y agoYou are talking about situations that do not include military aggression. We do not grant foreign adversaries the privilege of petitioning our courts and we never have.