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You've been doing blockchain on-and-off since before the genesis of Bitcoin? What were you doing?

by exdsq 5y ago

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dijksterhuis 5y ago
bitcoin.org site went live in 2008. white paper also published in 2008. > Nakamoto stated that work on the writing of the code for bitcoin began in 2007. On 18 August 2008, he or a colleague registered the domain name bitcoin.org, and created a web site at that address. On 31 October, Nakamoto published a white paper on the cryptography mailing list at metzdowd.com describing a digital cryptocurrency, titled "Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto
- exdsq 5y ago
  A white paper was sent to a small group of people in 2008, yes. But the group that acted on that is a subset of those people, that consists of maybe Hal Finney, Craig White, whoever Satoshi is, and a couple others. It's an extraordinarily small group of people.
nl 5y ago
Well, AI mostly. Let's just say I thought it was interesting but not worth pursuing. I just re-checked. It was actually 2009 sorry.
- randomhodler84 5y ago
  Prove it. There are other 2009 era bitcoiners here who can vouch if you were there. The community was known in 2009. My x to doubt is because nobody claims to have “been in blockchain since 2008” it’s a give away that your talking trash. The Genesis block date was Jan 3rd 2009. You were talking to satoshi about Bitcoin pre launch?
  - peterangular 5y ago
    Yeah - agree... also anyone throwing out a quick "Let's just say..." immediately makes me question the legitimacy of their claims. It's a handwave at best, but most often I've seen folks use it to cover up a bs claim by being incredibly vague, all while attempting to come off as cheeky and intelligent.
  - nl 5y ago
    I can't of course. If I still had that wallet.. I'm not really a "true crypto believer" though. I do have this from 2014: Project Proposal: Data Rental using the Ethereum Blockchain, Spetember 2014 https://imgur.com/a/XLo2P3Z https://imgur.com/a/XLo2P3Z If you know the history of Ethereum you'll know that is pretty early. I was on the old "decentralization" Yahoo mailing list and the p2p mailing list back in the early 2000's too. If you can find an archive (which I can't!) you can check my background there.
    - randomhodler84 5y ago
      What I object to is any doubt that today it is unsafe for anyone to self custody given the appropriate operational security. A hardware wallet is probably sufficient for nearly all cases of even non technical user. Where people go wrong these days is a) phished [education, instruct never never type those words into the computer…] b) tricked approvals [just don’t mess with eth until you know what you are doing. You will probably get scammed cos eth had a lot of scams.] Self custody is a critical part of this ecosystem. It’s been the biggest mantra of the ecosystem, so I really don’t understand how you can think this is for a small segment. A vast majority of BTC and ETH is not on exchanges. It’s the entire point. What you are admitting to is saying “I was there at the start but I still don’t really get why…”
      - nl 5y ago
        > "I was there at the start but I still don’t really get why…” Where do you get that? I understand the reasoning entirely. I disagree that it is important or that the security trade off is appropriate for almost anyone.

You've been doing blockchain on-and-off since before the genesis of Bitcoin? What were you doing?

by exdsq 5y ago

You've been doing blockchain on-and-off since before the genesis of Bitcoin? What were you doing?

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dijksterhuis 5y ago

bitcoin.org site went live in 2008. white paper also published in 2008. > Nakamoto stated that work on the writing of the code for bitcoin began in 2007. On 18 August 2008, he or a colleague registered the domain name bitcoin.org, and created a web site at that address. On 31 October, Nakamoto published a white paper on the cryptography mailing list at metzdowd.com describing a digital cryptocurrency, titled "Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto

exdsq 5y ago
A white paper was sent to a small group of people in 2008, yes. But the group that acted on that is a subset of those people, that consists of maybe Hal Finney, Craig White, whoever Satoshi is, and a couple others. It's an extraordinarily small group of people.

nl 5y ago

Well, AI mostly. Let's just say I thought it was interesting but not worth pursuing. I just re-checked. It was actually 2009 sorry.

randomhodler84 5y ago
Prove it. There are other 2009 era bitcoiners here who can vouch if you were there. The community was known in 2009. My x to doubt is because nobody claims to have “been in blockchain since 2008” it’s a give away that your talking trash. The Genesis block date was Jan 3rd 2009. You were talking to satoshi about Bitcoin pre launch?
- peterangular 5y ago
  Yeah - agree... also anyone throwing out a quick "Let's just say..." immediately makes me question the legitimacy of their claims. It's a handwave at best, but most often I've seen folks use it to cover up a bs claim by being incredibly vague, all while attempting to come off as cheeky and intelligent.
- nl 5y ago
  I can't of course. If I still had that wallet.. I'm not really a "true crypto believer" though. I do have this from 2014: Project Proposal: Data Rental using the Ethereum Blockchain, Spetember 2014 https://imgur.com/a/XLo2P3Z https://imgur.com/a/XLo2P3Z If you know the history of Ethereum you'll know that is pretty early. I was on the old "decentralization" Yahoo mailing list and the p2p mailing list back in the early 2000's too. If you can find an archive (which I can't!) you can check my background there.
  - randomhodler84 5y ago
    What I object to is any doubt that today it is unsafe for anyone to self custody given the appropriate operational security. A hardware wallet is probably sufficient for nearly all cases of even non technical user. Where people go wrong these days is a) phished [education, instruct never never type those words into the computer…] b) tricked approvals [just don’t mess with eth until you know what you are doing. You will probably get scammed cos eth had a lot of scams.] Self custody is a critical part of this ecosystem. It’s been the biggest mantra of the ecosystem, so I really don’t understand how you can think this is for a small segment. A vast majority of BTC and ETH is not on exchanges. It’s the entire point. What you are admitting to is saying “I was there at the start but I still don’t really get why…”
    - nl 5y ago
      > "I was there at the start but I still don’t really get why…” Where do you get that? I understand the reasoning entirely. I disagree that it is important or that the security trade off is appropriate for almost anyone.