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I would switch to linux if they could get BT to work. Macbook Air M1 owner here I need airpods to work otherwise it's not a viable switch. This this is true for

I would switch to linux if they could get BT to work. Macbook Air M1 owner here I need airpods to work otherwise it's not a viable switch. This this is true for many users. Please focus on that guys.

tomrod 5y ago
Sounds like an area for a good, motivated technologist who appreciates lambdas and DNs to contribute, if the project is open source and accepting contributions.
- lambda_dn 5y ago
  Good point, I may scratch that itch
  - tomrod 5y ago
    Thank you for entertaining my silly comment :) And good luck!
mort96 5y ago
For some people, Bluetooth will be the one important thing and everything else that doesn't work isn't so important. Other people will be able to live without bluetooth but can't live without the HDMI port. Other people again may not use external screens but absolutely require hardware acceleration. Others still may not care so much about any of that stuff, but need the camera to work for their meetings. And maybe some are absolutely dependent on external storage accessed through Thunderbolt. There's _a lot_ of work still. It's not clear that Bluetooth should be the highest priority of what's left. And this whole undertaking is a monumental task which it's amazing that volunteers are even attempting. Saying "I want bluetooth, please focus on that guys" here seems a bit tone-deaf.
- lambda_dn 5y ago
  It's a Linux project aimed at being a Linux OS to compete with MacOs. As per usual with the linux community it's "if you want it roll your own". That's why the year of the Linux desktop will never come.
  - rowanG077 5y ago
    > "if you want it roll your own" Yes, and every other mainstream OS is: "No, this is not supported.". I don't see how Linux is seen as worse then that answer. If anything this post proves how rapidly the Linux community moves. Within a year there is working Linux on FULLY proprietary hardware. And not just a funny PoC. No, you can daily drive this thing. Let's see how long it takes for Windows to run on the M1...
  - howinteresting 5y ago
    This is ridiculous. Linux, including Bluetooth, works great on regular PCs. In fact with Pipewire, Bluetooth on Linux these days is generally in better shape than on other OSes.
    - nullwarp 5y ago
      Seriously my Jabra's and Senny BT headphones pickup and work flawlessly with my Linux desktop. Meanwhile my Sennhesier headphones work sometimes with my POS mac to the point where I have to tell people If i don't immediately pick up it's because I'm wasting 15 minutes trying to get my headphones to pair with my Mac.
  - mattl 5y ago
    The year of the Linux desktop was March 2020-March 2021 when millions were given a Chromebook against their will. EDIT: To everyone downvoting this: nobody cares, nobody is listening to you.
    - Shared404 5y ago
      This makes me so upset. I love honestly love a lot of Chromebook hardware. It's honestly exactly what I want in a laptop - long battery life, efficient, lightweight, decent enough keyboard. But it's impossible to get without giving Google money, and without dealing with a massive warning every time you boot - if you're model even lets you install something other than Chrome OS. I should really grab a Pinebook Pro I guess. And that's without getting into all the privacy issues of students being forced to use Google software/hardware, or the schools spying on students through the Chromebooks.
Raymonf 5y ago
Come on, it's the first alpha. If you _need_ it, I'm sure they wouldn't mind you contributing a driver to check it off this page: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Tasks https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Tasks
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- DougMellon 5y ago
  Any suggestions for a good way to learn driver development?
  - rowanG077 5y ago
    It's not that different from any other C development. If you know C you can basically hit the ground running. Just read the sources.
    - zozbot234 5y ago
      If low-level embedded coding "is not different from any other C development", that's not really a positive remark about C. No wonder that software defects are so common in C code.
      - tedunangst 5y ago
        What are you expecting to be so different? You call the right functions with the right arguments to get it to do what you want. What language do you use that you can program by calling the wrong function with the wrong arguments?
    - floatboth 5y ago
      That's if working from documentation. With independent FOSS driver development, the big deal is the reverse engineering.

I would switch to linux if they could get BT to work. Macbook Air M1 owner here I need airpods to work otherwise it's not a viable switch. This this is true for many users. Please focus on that guys.

tomrod 5y ago

Sounds like an area for a good, motivated technologist who appreciates lambdas and DNs to contribute, if the project is open source and accepting contributions.

lambda_dn 5y ago
Good point, I may scratch that itch
- tomrod 5y ago
  Thank you for entertaining my silly comment :) And good luck!

mort96 5y ago

For some people, Bluetooth will be the one important thing and everything else that doesn't work isn't so important. Other people will be able to live without bluetooth but can't live without the HDMI port. Other people again may not use external screens but absolutely require hardware acceleration. Others still may not care so much about any of that stuff, but need the camera to work for their meetings. And maybe some are absolutely dependent on external storage accessed through Thunderbolt. There's _a lot_ of work still. It's not clear that Bluetooth should be the highest priority of what's left. And this whole undertaking is a monumental task which it's amazing that volunteers are even attempting. Saying "I want bluetooth, please focus on that guys" here seems a bit tone-deaf.

lambda_dn 5y ago
It's a Linux project aimed at being a Linux OS to compete with MacOs. As per usual with the linux community it's "if you want it roll your own". That's why the year of the Linux desktop will never come.
- rowanG077 5y ago
  > "if you want it roll your own" Yes, and every other mainstream OS is: "No, this is not supported.". I don't see how Linux is seen as worse then that answer. If anything this post proves how rapidly the Linux community moves. Within a year there is working Linux on FULLY proprietary hardware. And not just a funny PoC. No, you can daily drive this thing. Let's see how long it takes for Windows to run on the M1...
- howinteresting 5y ago
  This is ridiculous. Linux, including Bluetooth, works great on regular PCs. In fact with Pipewire, Bluetooth on Linux these days is generally in better shape than on other OSes.
  - nullwarp 5y ago
    Seriously my Jabra's and Senny BT headphones pickup and work flawlessly with my Linux desktop. Meanwhile my Sennhesier headphones work sometimes with my POS mac to the point where I have to tell people If i don't immediately pick up it's because I'm wasting 15 minutes trying to get my headphones to pair with my Mac.
- mattl 5y ago
  The year of the Linux desktop was March 2020-March 2021 when millions were given a Chromebook against their will. EDIT: To everyone downvoting this: nobody cares, nobody is listening to you.
  - Shared404 5y ago
    This makes me so upset. I love honestly love a lot of Chromebook hardware. It's honestly exactly what I want in a laptop - long battery life, efficient, lightweight, decent enough keyboard. But it's impossible to get without giving Google money, and without dealing with a massive warning every time you boot - if you're model even lets you install something other than Chrome OS. I should really grab a Pinebook Pro I guess. And that's without getting into all the privacy issues of students being forced to use Google software/hardware, or the schools spying on students through the Chromebooks.

Raymonf 5y ago

Come on, it's the first alpha. If you _need_ it, I'm sure they wouldn't mind you contributing a driver to check it off this page: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Tasks https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Tasks

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DougMellon 5y ago
Any suggestions for a good way to learn driver development?
- rowanG077 5y ago
  It's not that different from any other C development. If you know C you can basically hit the ground running. Just read the sources.
  - zozbot234 5y ago
    If low-level embedded coding "is not different from any other C development", that's not really a positive remark about C. No wonder that software defects are so common in C code.
    - tedunangst 5y ago
      What are you expecting to be so different? You call the right functions with the right arguments to get it to do what you want. What language do you use that you can program by calling the wrong function with the wrong arguments?
  - floatboth 5y ago
    That's if working from documentation. With independent FOSS driver development, the big deal is the reverse engineering.