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It's not that they are guilty. It is impossible to harm a state without harming its citizen in the process.
by malka 5y ago
It's not that they are guilty. It is impossible to harm a state without harming its citizen in the process.
- emodendroket 5y agoHow is the state being harmed by stuff like people vandalizing shops for having Cyrillic letters on the storefront, I wonder.
- diordiderot 5y agoStupid people do stupid things all the time. Clearly not an educated tactic. No one with an anything above the brain stem would do that, and that's not what's being argued for. Racism isn't the point, crippling the Russian state is. Assuming anything else smells like bad faith.
- scaramanga 5y agoHuge parts of the Russian state are "infrastructure necessary for civil life" attacking those would be contrary to international humanitarian law. But there is also the tactical issue of whether such attacks would have the desired effect. Imagine if Russia would attempt to "cripple the US state" to stop the war in Iraq... I think the average Joe in America would feel quite threatened by that notion. As a corollary, consider this: as a response, would Joe be more likely turn against his state, or realise that he desperately needs to support it, in order to defend his way of life?
- emodendroket 5y ago> Racism isn't the point, crippling the Russian state is. Assuming anything else smells like bad faith. One incident related in the story is someone slipping malware into a node library which appears, among other collateral damage, to have deleted the archives one NPO had collected of the war hoping to document Russian war crimes. So really I'm not sold on it being that different.
- smsm42 5y agoDo you have a link describing which NPO was that and what exactly happened?
- emodendroket 5y agohttps://github.com/RIAEvangelist/node-ipc/issues/308 https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/node-ipc/issues/308 Draw your own conclusions about authenticity but it doesn't sound implausible.
- smsm42 5y agoAnonymous post without any details... Yeah, I smell some substance that comes out of a bull.
- tracker1 5y agoTargeted missile strikes on the homes of the leadership and military executives would be a way to do so, while minimizing direct harm to the population. Of course, actually targeting elites in power isn't something elites in power want to promote.
- emodendroket 5y agoOh come off it, the notion of collateral damage-free missile strikes is a fantasy, and there are obvious reasons not to pursue a hot war with a nuclear power.
- tracker1 5y agoI never suggested that it would be collateral free... I said specifically "minimizing" the impact. That said, I don't support the practice, only making the point that there are in fact better options, including those with military action.
- formerly_proven 5y agoYou can observe the difference between a military largely focused on PGMs and a military focused on 152mm artillery and unguided MLRS right now in this very war.
- Viliam1234 5y ago> It is impossible to harm a state without harming its citizen in the process. Technically, there is a way to hurt a state while helping its citizens -- help them move away, to a better place.