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If only we capitulated more quickly I am sure everything would have been totally great forever.

by j4yav 5y ago

realusername 5y ago
Sounds the same ideas as the Vichy regime, and that would have been equally successful.
morpheos137 5y ago
- emteycz 5y ago
  Why would Russia be attacked by Ukraine or West? That's paranoia. We wanted to trade, not fight, and we really tried, many times over. For some time, Russia was deemed an ally, until the Russian government turned imperialistic.
  - morpheos137 5y ago
    Anglo-America has always been imperialistic. It still thinks it can dictate terms unilaterally. Eventually billions of people will wake up and realise there is no particular reason why they deserve a lesser standard of living than 300-400 million or perhaps a billion westerners. In fact that is happening right now, evidenced by India and China aligning with Russia against US/UK. Anyway time will tell if it all ends an Soviet style implosion or a big bang but lies can't last forever.
    - epgui 5y ago
      The purpose of History is not to assign blame for current wrongs based on past wrongs. The purpose of History is to not repeat past mistakes. I'm not saying that America's hands are clean, but dude, you need to focus on the situation of today, and you need to direct your anger and frustration in the right place. Don't transpose past wrongs to the present, or current but irrelevant wrongs to the situation in Ukraine. Your ideas are extremely loosely connected to current events, and your perspective is unproductive, or "academic" at best.
    - visarga 5y ago
      > In fact that is happening right now, evidenced by India and China aligning with Russia against US/UK. You misspelled "almost nobody is standing with Russia". The level of consensus is unprecedented.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      > Anglo-America has always been imperialistic. An odd defense of the country that seized Crimea. > It still thinks it can dictate terms unilaterally. You mean like "you, a sovereign nation, are not allowed to join NATO because we, an entirely different nation, don't want you to"?
- j4yav 5y ago
  Russian independence was already secured by nuclear weapons. Russia’s war in Ukraine is obviously a war of aggression, not to mention a foolish miscalculation.

If only we capitulated more quickly I am sure everything would have been totally great forever.

by j4yav 5y ago

If only we capitulated more quickly I am sure everything would have been totally great forever.

realusername 5y ago

Sounds the same ideas as the Vichy regime, and that would have been equally successful.

morpheos137 5y ago

emteycz 5y ago
Why would Russia be attacked by Ukraine or West? That's paranoia. We wanted to trade, not fight, and we really tried, many times over. For some time, Russia was deemed an ally, until the Russian government turned imperialistic.
- morpheos137 5y ago
  Anglo-America has always been imperialistic. It still thinks it can dictate terms unilaterally. Eventually billions of people will wake up and realise there is no particular reason why they deserve a lesser standard of living than 300-400 million or perhaps a billion westerners. In fact that is happening right now, evidenced by India and China aligning with Russia against US/UK. Anyway time will tell if it all ends an Soviet style implosion or a big bang but lies can't last forever.
  - epgui 5y ago
    The purpose of History is not to assign blame for current wrongs based on past wrongs. The purpose of History is to not repeat past mistakes. I'm not saying that America's hands are clean, but dude, you need to focus on the situation of today, and you need to direct your anger and frustration in the right place. Don't transpose past wrongs to the present, or current but irrelevant wrongs to the situation in Ukraine. Your ideas are extremely loosely connected to current events, and your perspective is unproductive, or "academic" at best.
  - visarga 5y ago
    > In fact that is happening right now, evidenced by India and China aligning with Russia against US/UK. You misspelled "almost nobody is standing with Russia". The level of consensus is unprecedented.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    > Anglo-America has always been imperialistic. An odd defense of the country that seized Crimea. > It still thinks it can dictate terms unilaterally. You mean like "you, a sovereign nation, are not allowed to join NATO because we, an entirely different nation, don't want you to"?
j4yav 5y ago
Russian independence was already secured by nuclear weapons. Russia’s war in Ukraine is obviously a war of aggression, not to mention a foolish miscalculation.