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Is there a specific data set you are referencing? How about other components like Ownership and Support?

danans 5y ago
I've just done the math on my car operating costs. At today's gas prices (admittedly high due to the Ukraine war), the price of electricity in CA would have to more than triple for me to pay the same as I would for gas. Before the recent gas price spike it was like 2.25X to use gas. > How about other components like Ownership and Support? Do you mean depreciation and maintenance? Depreciation on recent EVs has been just like other types of vehicles in their respective classes. Granted, these are relatively new cars - there isn't much longitudinal data on EV maintenance, but every indication is that it should be less than ICE vehicles. And can you put a price on the great driving experience of an EV (flat power curve, low center of gravity, silent, no combustion smell)? Probably, but I haven't tried.
- stonogo 5y ago
  My results are similar to yours. I don't know if you can put a price on silent, non-oil-based, clean-running driving experiences, but it does come with the charge-time pain point. I look forward to the five-minute refuel I left behind to get the other benefits of an EV...
  - danans 5y ago
    > but it does come with the charge-time pain point. I look forward to the five-minute refuel I left behind to get the other benefits of an EV... Since I charge at home, this is only a pain point on road trips (though diminishing with the growing number of high power chargers along highways). However, I understand how it's a pain for apartment dwellers who don't have their own charging stations. So we need better street-side public charging infrastructure for them - but also for single-family-home dwellers with a second car that doesn't fit in the driveway. Living in a single-family-home shouldn't be a precondition for driving an EV.

I've just done the math on my car operating costs. At today's gas prices (admittedly high due to the Ukraine war), the price of electricity in CA would have to more than triple for me to pay the same as I would for gas. Before the recent gas price spike it was like 2.25X to use gas. > How about other components like Ownership and Support? Do you mean depreciation and maintenance? Depreciation on recent EVs has been just like other types of vehicles in their respective classes. Granted, these are relatively new cars - there isn't much longitudinal data on EV maintenance, but every indication is that it should be less than ICE vehicles. And can you put a price on the great driving experience of an EV (flat power curve, low center of gravity, silent, no combustion smell)? Probably, but I haven't tried.

stonogo 5y ago
My results are similar to yours. I don't know if you can put a price on silent, non-oil-based, clean-running driving experiences, but it does come with the charge-time pain point. I look forward to the five-minute refuel I left behind to get the other benefits of an EV...
- danans 5y ago
  > but it does come with the charge-time pain point. I look forward to the five-minute refuel I left behind to get the other benefits of an EV... Since I charge at home, this is only a pain point on road trips (though diminishing with the growing number of high power chargers along highways). However, I understand how it's a pain for apartment dwellers who don't have their own charging stations. So we need better street-side public charging infrastructure for them - but also for single-family-home dwellers with a second car that doesn't fit in the driveway. Living in a single-family-home shouldn't be a precondition for driving an EV.