I concur with all of this. And well said. What I was reacting to was two other commenters saying something similar and getting silenced for it. Not disagreed wi

I concur with all of this. And well said. What I was reacting to was two other commenters saying something similar and getting silenced for it. Not disagreed with or challenged or anything, just squashed. > badly designed society This the only nit I'd have with what you said. I'd say that it's a flaw in society perhaps, but I don't thing our society is designed by anyone or thing, and I don't know how it could ever be, nor maybe should ever be. In a free society, it evolves. And while some forces are trying to re-design, re-engineer, and steer parts of it, there are millions of other forces semi-aligned or opposed and pushing in all sorts of different directions. That makes the outcomes develop in a chaotic and unpredictable ways. And certainly flawed, but also on the whole, not terrible. So overly simple pat "answers" like "fix the zoning => affordable houses => no more homeless" or "tiny homes" or "use a new term to destigmatize..." are of course going to get nowhere. We have to recognize all the flaws and problems and push just in the right way to nudge that society of millions in some direction that will hopefully just slightly improve things without backfiring. Wide eyed idealism is not going to help at all, and it's actively harmful when pursued with zealotry to shut down honest communication about those flaws. Like mental health and substance abuse.