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>The model f revival exists for collectors and is functional, but is just bespoke enough to me that it's more of a collector's item than a mass product. Defini

>The model f revival exists for collectors and is functional, but is just bespoke enough to me that it's more of a collector's item than a mass product. Definitely not a mass product. The project IMO is a disaster even for a group buy type thing. I ordered long after it was an existing product and tons of people received theirs already and come to find out at that point it was still going to be a year+ wait for most people and they under no circumstances will attempt to even ballpark how long its going to take. There's a lot of work involved for the guy running the project but it would be nice to know if I'm looking at waiting 3 months, 6 months, a year, or more. Delays are understandable but that's not all that's going on here.

shadowofneptune 5y ago
I'm looking at the the keyboard layout for this keyboard (https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2021-02-11_02-34-46.jpg https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2...), and it doesn't appear to match any IBM keyboard model. It does not resemble at all the original Model F (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/IBM_Model_F_XT.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/IBM_Mode...). It is closest to the keyboard that came with early models of the PC AT (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/IBM_Model_F_AT.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/IBM_Mode...). The placement of the function keys, control keys, etc. is quite different though. What's the point of calling it a model F keyboard if all it shares with the Model F is its key switches?
- chevill 5y ago
  Its a fairly accurate clone of the Model F77. I think the smaller one's a clone of an F62. There were at least 6 different versions of the Model F of different sizes, including a standalone numpad/macro pad. Its admittedly confusing that its called "model F" when there's more than one model. I think the F77 is believed to be exceedingly rare. Same goes for Model M, there were lots of variations made by IBM. Here's an article that shows an original F77 that someone was working on restoring. If you're ever looking for information on obscure vintage keyboards and all of their variants, the deskthority wiki and forum is probably the best place to start. https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=22176 https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=22176 According to Chyrosan (probably the most well known vintage keyboard collector/reviewer) the new ones are one of the only times he's seen a clone have better build quality than the original. The keys do feel very slightly differently but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Some prefer them to the old and vice versa.

shadowofneptune 5y ago

I'm looking at the the keyboard layout for this keyboard (https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2021-02-11_02-34-46.jpg https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2...), and it doesn't appear to match any IBM keyboard model. It does not resemble at all the original Model F (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/IBM_Model_F_XT.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/IBM_Mode...). It is closest to the keyboard that came with early models of the PC AT (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/IBM_Model_F_AT.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/IBM_Mode...). The placement of the function keys, control keys, etc. is quite different though. What's the point of calling it a model F keyboard if all it shares with the Model F is its key switches?

chevill 5y ago
Its a fairly accurate clone of the Model F77. I think the smaller one's a clone of an F62. There were at least 6 different versions of the Model F of different sizes, including a standalone numpad/macro pad. Its admittedly confusing that its called "model F" when there's more than one model. I think the F77 is believed to be exceedingly rare. Same goes for Model M, there were lots of variations made by IBM. Here's an article that shows an original F77 that someone was working on restoring. If you're ever looking for information on obscure vintage keyboards and all of their variants, the deskthority wiki and forum is probably the best place to start. https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=22176 https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=22176 According to Chyrosan (probably the most well known vintage keyboard collector/reviewer) the new ones are one of the only times he's seen a clone have better build quality than the original. The keys do feel very slightly differently but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Some prefer them to the old and vice versa.