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But it was listed as if it was some kind of bloat. Maybe if you only have one computing device, but I find that hard to believe. Why wouldn't you want to sync y

But it was listed as if it was some kind of bloat. Maybe if you only have one computing device, but I find that hard to believe. Why wouldn't you want to sync your bookmarks, extensions and settings between your devices?

qorrect 5y ago
| Why wouldn't you want to sync your bookmarks, extensions and settings between your devices? Because you're afraid they'll get hacked.
- nextlevelwizard 5y ago
  Mozzilla? OK. Let's play this out. Mozzilla gets hacked and now they have all of your bookmarks. What are they gonna do with that? What is at stake? Only thing I can think about is if you have some taboo erotica bookmarked. Do you have actual examples?
  - grogrecipe 5y ago
    Put you on a list. What if Mozilla gets hacked by Russia for instance? They could use that data to profile partisans in Ukraine. Just one teeny tiny example. You can think of many real life risks when other people have your data.
    - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
      So Russia hacks Mozilla and gets list of your bookmarks... And then what? They know what sites you visit often and what can they do with that information? I feel like you felt this was some kind of slamdunk gotcha, but I really can't see what you are trying to say. As if Ukrainian combattans have some special bookmarks that reveal some military secrects. >You can think of many real life risks when other people have your data. Yet you can't name one
digisign 5y ago
No, I have thousands on my desktop, and none on my movie tablet and prefer it to stay that way. Not to mention I use safari on the iphone. I don't want work or personal mixed either. Even if did want some of these, companies are not trustworthy any longer.
- nextlevelwizard 5y ago
  What are you putting your trust into? A set of links and list of extensions. If you use the browser to visit these links and use the extensions then they already have all that info about you. As for mixing work and personal. You can setup multiple accounts and switch between them. And I don't see what the amount of bookmarks has to do with anything, it just brings up relative things faster if you have them bookmarked. Feels almost like you are just trying to come up with reasons to dismiss useful feature.
  - digisign 5y ago
    No, they don't have info about me, at least that part. That's the point. I don't need to switch between accounts, but screens, my client work is on a separate laptop. Try navigating even hundreds of objects on a mobile device, it's not practical. Most of the stuff is not needed there either, for example (at random) I never use stack-exchange from a mobile device.
    - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
      >I don't need to switch between accounts, but screens, my client work is on a separate laptop. yeah, so it is not for you. > No, they don't have info about me, at least that part. That's the point. is that really THE point? If so can you please clarify why.
      - digisign 5y ago
        From a user standpoint, information should be given out on a need-to-know basis. We're in a post-storage-scarcity world, after 2005 or so. Data is collected for everything and no longer deleted if it has any value. The fact that organizations are starving for data means they will correlate and profile on anything they are allowed to gather. Once gathered, never deleted, bought and sold. More ethical employees replaced as needed. You're in a librewolf thread, maybe wondering why it exists? For a primer I recommend the Frontline doc, "The United States of Secrets." It is on Kanopy, maybe PBS app for free. Worth paying for. Their more recent Facebook doc was interesting as well. In themselves, bookmarks are not important. But they'd be pretty valuable (combined with other things) to use as an input to an advertising algorithm, no?
pmontra 5y ago
Not the OP but two reasons for that. One is that Mozilla broke all the extensions on Android except a few ones so there are very few extensions that I can sync from Ubuntu to Android. And I only have a laptop plus a number of phones and tablets. Two, I don't sync my data through somebody's else servers. I fancied to setup my sync server but that would be limited to Firefox. Instead I use KDEConnect and GSConnect to send tabs and files across devices (and Syncthing too.) I don't bookmark much. I pin a few sites to the new tab page.
- ephbit 5y ago
  Syncthing ... Do you use it in some way to sync browser stuff? This is the feature I'm desperately wanting from apps and desktop applications (like browser): let me sync between desktop and mobile by syncing small state/settings files (of the apps) via syncthing.
- mackrevinack 5y ago
  floccus seems like a good solution for bookmarks if you or anyone else is interested. to sync things you can use either a webdav server, nextcloud instance or even just a local syncthing folder in conjunction with small desktop utility that floccus makes.
  - pmontra 5y ago
    Yep, I've been thinking to setup a nextcloud server or something like that for years but I already solved almost all my needs by using those apps and local services. The gain is very marginal.
- nextlevelwizard 5y ago
  >I don't sync my data through somebody's else servers. That seems like schizo blanket statement. Now instead of using built in, tested solution, you spend time setting up and maintaining custom solution and for what gain?
  - pmontra 5y ago

qorrect 5y ago

| Why wouldn't you want to sync your bookmarks, extensions and settings between your devices? Because you're afraid they'll get hacked.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago
Mozzilla? OK. Let's play this out. Mozzilla gets hacked and now they have all of your bookmarks. What are they gonna do with that? What is at stake? Only thing I can think about is if you have some taboo erotica bookmarked. Do you have actual examples?
- grogrecipe 5y ago
  Put you on a list. What if Mozilla gets hacked by Russia for instance? They could use that data to profile partisans in Ukraine. Just one teeny tiny example. You can think of many real life risks when other people have your data.
  - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
    So Russia hacks Mozilla and gets list of your bookmarks... And then what? They know what sites you visit often and what can they do with that information? I feel like you felt this was some kind of slamdunk gotcha, but I really can't see what you are trying to say. As if Ukrainian combattans have some special bookmarks that reveal some military secrects. >You can think of many real life risks when other people have your data. Yet you can't name one

digisign 5y ago

No, I have thousands on my desktop, and none on my movie tablet and prefer it to stay that way. Not to mention I use safari on the iphone. I don't want work or personal mixed either. Even if did want some of these, companies are not trustworthy any longer.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago
What are you putting your trust into? A set of links and list of extensions. If you use the browser to visit these links and use the extensions then they already have all that info about you. As for mixing work and personal. You can setup multiple accounts and switch between them. And I don't see what the amount of bookmarks has to do with anything, it just brings up relative things faster if you have them bookmarked. Feels almost like you are just trying to come up with reasons to dismiss useful feature.
- digisign 5y ago
  No, they don't have info about me, at least that part. That's the point. I don't need to switch between accounts, but screens, my client work is on a separate laptop. Try navigating even hundreds of objects on a mobile device, it's not practical. Most of the stuff is not needed there either, for example (at random) I never use stack-exchange from a mobile device.
  - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
    >I don't need to switch between accounts, but screens, my client work is on a separate laptop. yeah, so it is not for you. > No, they don't have info about me, at least that part. That's the point. is that really THE point? If so can you please clarify why.
    - digisign 5y ago
      From a user standpoint, information should be given out on a need-to-know basis. We're in a post-storage-scarcity world, after 2005 or so. Data is collected for everything and no longer deleted if it has any value. The fact that organizations are starving for data means they will correlate and profile on anything they are allowed to gather. Once gathered, never deleted, bought and sold. More ethical employees replaced as needed. You're in a librewolf thread, maybe wondering why it exists? For a primer I recommend the Frontline doc, "The United States of Secrets." It is on Kanopy, maybe PBS app for free. Worth paying for. Their more recent Facebook doc was interesting as well. In themselves, bookmarks are not important. But they'd be pretty valuable (combined with other things) to use as an input to an advertising algorithm, no?

pmontra 5y ago

Not the OP but two reasons for that. One is that Mozilla broke all the extensions on Android except a few ones so there are very few extensions that I can sync from Ubuntu to Android. And I only have a laptop plus a number of phones and tablets. Two, I don't sync my data through somebody's else servers. I fancied to setup my sync server but that would be limited to Firefox. Instead I use KDEConnect and GSConnect to send tabs and files across devices (and Syncthing too.) I don't bookmark much. I pin a few sites to the new tab page.

ephbit 5y ago
Syncthing ... Do you use it in some way to sync browser stuff? This is the feature I'm desperately wanting from apps and desktop applications (like browser): let me sync between desktop and mobile by syncing small state/settings files (of the apps) via syncthing.
mackrevinack 5y ago
floccus seems like a good solution for bookmarks if you or anyone else is interested. to sync things you can use either a webdav server, nextcloud instance or even just a local syncthing folder in conjunction with small desktop utility that floccus makes.
- pmontra 5y ago
  Yep, I've been thinking to setup a nextcloud server or something like that for years but I already solved almost all my needs by using those apps and local services. The gain is very marginal.
nextlevelwizard 5y ago
>I don't sync my data through somebody's else servers. That seems like schizo blanket statement. Now instead of using built in, tested solution, you spend time setting up and maintaining custom solution and for what gain?
- pmontra 5y ago