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I know I'll get down voted for saying this but I just have to do it - could it be that developers no longer want to work for boring corporate assembly-line leve

by vparikh 15y ago

I know I'll get down voted for saying this but I just have to do it - could it be that developers no longer want to work for boring corporate assembly-line level "lets make yet another database front-end for yet another inventory management system"? Could it be that people who like to code actually care about the code and tools that they are using? Could it be that developers are seeing the writing on the wall about Microsoft and are leaving in droves?

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Delmania 15y ago
What writing on the wall is this? The demise of Microsoft? That's a narrative being pushed by the tech reporting industry. Also, I assume you've never used and of the developments tools or languages created by the company. Both Visual Studio and C# are very well done, and other tools like F# and the ASP.NET MVC are getting similiar treatment. The problem has little to do with either Microsoft or the .NET development ecosystem, it has more to do with the nature of corporations and startups.
jinushaun 15y ago
I work for a .NET based startup doing fun and interesting things, so I know that C# and .NET can actually be fun to code in. However, most, if not all, of the .NET job listings I see on Twitter are boring soul-killing enterprise jobs. Or worse, Sharepoint! Fortunately, there seems to be a renaissance going on at MS. They realise they no one likes working with their shit tools. Sure MS technology may "run the world", but all the cool/fun stuff is being done in the OSS stack. When was the last time you heard of a hot startup using .NET? MS wants in on the party and a lot of their new stuff has a deliberate non-enterprise angle with a focus on developer enjoyment.
- jackfoxy 15y ago
  >When was the last time you heard of a hot startup using .NET? Does Stack Exchange qualify?

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I know I'll get down voted for saying this but I just have to do it - could it be that developers no longer want to work for boring corporate assembly-line leve

by vparikh 15y ago

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Delmania 15y ago
What writing on the wall is this? The demise of Microsoft? That's a narrative being pushed by the tech reporting industry. Also, I assume you've never used and of the developments tools or languages created by the company. Both Visual Studio and C# are very well done, and other tools like F# and the ASP.NET MVC are getting similiar treatment. The problem has little to do with either Microsoft or the .NET development ecosystem, it has more to do with the nature of corporations and startups.
jinushaun 15y ago
I work for a .NET based startup doing fun and interesting things, so I know that C# and .NET can actually be fun to code in. However, most, if not all, of the .NET job listings I see on Twitter are boring soul-killing enterprise jobs. Or worse, Sharepoint! Fortunately, there seems to be a renaissance going on at MS. They realise they no one likes working with their shit tools. Sure MS technology may "run the world", but all the cool/fun stuff is being done in the OSS stack. When was the last time you heard of a hot startup using .NET? MS wants in on the party and a lot of their new stuff has a deliberate non-enterprise angle with a focus on developer enjoyment.
- jackfoxy 15y ago
  >When was the last time you heard of a hot startup using .NET? Does Stack Exchange qualify?