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The move to USB-C chargers did not "necessitate an additional purchase". All the decade-old chargers and cables still work fine. None of your points make any s

by Bud 5y ago

The move to USB-C chargers did not "necessitate an additional purchase". All the decade-old chargers and cables still work fine. None of your points make any sense, actually. It's not true that nobody other than Apple gained financial benefits, not that anyone should expect otherwise when a company sells a product, really.

Someone1234 5y ago
> The move to USB-C chargers did not "necessitate an additional purchase". iPhones still ship with the cable. The cable is Lighting to USB-C. The previous generation of iPhone shipped with Lightning to USB-A (and including a USB-A power brick). Therefore, to use the cable that Apple provides with the phone, an additional purchase is required, even if you have a legacy power brick. The first year Apple switched from USB-A to USB-C was also the same year they stopped including a compatible power brick.
- jen20 5y ago
  > Therefore, to use the cable that Apple provides with the phone, an additional purchase is required, even if you have a legacy power brick. I have managed to never buy a USB-C brick. I use the cable that came in the box in my car or mophie battery pack or laptop, and it works fine in both places with no additional purchase. My “main” charger is wireless (actually a Samsung one), so I don’t even have a “legacy” charger in the mix.
- 988747 5y ago
  If you have a legacy iPhone power brick there's a good chance you also possess legacy Lighthnig to USB-A cable. It's more troublesome for those who migrate from Android and only have micro USB to USB-A cables and USB-A chargers.
  - Someone1234 5y ago
    Depending on how old the USB-A Apple power brick is, it may lack partial or full support for rapid charging. Which to unlock, would still require an additional $20 purchase.
    - Bud 5y ago
      Granted. Of course. It also requires an additional purchase to use the other, superior way of charging that's built into new iPhones, which is MagSafe, of course. But my point was limited to dismantling the repeated claim in this thread that moving to USB-C chargers somehow "required" a new purchase, or somehow meant that all the old chargers and cables don't work. Neither of those things is true and I'm tired of reading those distortions. Obviously quick charging could not work at full speed with the old 5W chargers, and you can't magically make USB-A support more power, so the move to USB-C was necessitated by the ability to charge more quickly. But full backwards compatibility has been maintained, as much as is possible. That's all I'm saying.
Reubachi 5y ago
False. I've owned android devices up to galaxy s10. All recently used USB A to C. Switched to iphone. Only shipped with Lightning to USB C cable, no brick. All my bricks, like I imagine most people, are USB A female. I had no way to charge my brand newdevice and had to go out to buy a USB C female charging brick. Like most people.
- chrisoverzero 5y ago
  > I […] had to go out to buy a USB C female charging brick. Why didn't you buy a wire instead?
- Bud 5y ago
  "Most people" is something you're making up. I'll wager it's a minority. Most iPhone consumers either had a USB-C charger before, or a USB-A charger with Lightning cable from a previous iPhone, or they have a recent Mac with USB-C ports, or they have a recent PC with USB-C ports, or they have an iPad and a USB-C charger from that. Probably it's a tiny minority who are in your situation. Would you have rather paid extra for the phone and not gotten to choose your preferred charging method? This way you can go out and get a MagSafe charger, which is better anyway.

by Bud 5y ago

Someone1234 5y ago

> The move to USB-C chargers did not "necessitate an additional purchase". iPhones still ship with the cable. The cable is Lighting to USB-C. The previous generation of iPhone shipped with Lightning to USB-A (and including a USB-A power brick). Therefore, to use the cable that Apple provides with the phone, an additional purchase is required, even if you have a legacy power brick. The first year Apple switched from USB-A to USB-C was also the same year they stopped including a compatible power brick.

jen20 5y ago
> Therefore, to use the cable that Apple provides with the phone, an additional purchase is required, even if you have a legacy power brick. I have managed to never buy a USB-C brick. I use the cable that came in the box in my car or mophie battery pack or laptop, and it works fine in both places with no additional purchase. My “main” charger is wireless (actually a Samsung one), so I don’t even have a “legacy” charger in the mix.
988747 5y ago
If you have a legacy iPhone power brick there's a good chance you also possess legacy Lighthnig to USB-A cable. It's more troublesome for those who migrate from Android and only have micro USB to USB-A cables and USB-A chargers.
- Someone1234 5y ago
  Depending on how old the USB-A Apple power brick is, it may lack partial or full support for rapid charging. Which to unlock, would still require an additional $20 purchase.
  - Bud 5y ago
    Granted. Of course. It also requires an additional purchase to use the other, superior way of charging that's built into new iPhones, which is MagSafe, of course. But my point was limited to dismantling the repeated claim in this thread that moving to USB-C chargers somehow "required" a new purchase, or somehow meant that all the old chargers and cables don't work. Neither of those things is true and I'm tired of reading those distortions. Obviously quick charging could not work at full speed with the old 5W chargers, and you can't magically make USB-A support more power, so the move to USB-C was necessitated by the ability to charge more quickly. But full backwards compatibility has been maintained, as much as is possible. That's all I'm saying.

Reubachi 5y ago

False. I've owned android devices up to galaxy s10. All recently used USB A to C. Switched to iphone. Only shipped with Lightning to USB C cable, no brick. All my bricks, like I imagine most people, are USB A female. I had no way to charge my brand newdevice and had to go out to buy a USB C female charging brick. Like most people.

chrisoverzero 5y ago
> I […] had to go out to buy a USB C female charging brick. Why didn't you buy a wire instead?
Bud 5y ago
"Most people" is something you're making up. I'll wager it's a minority. Most iPhone consumers either had a USB-C charger before, or a USB-A charger with Lightning cable from a previous iPhone, or they have a recent Mac with USB-C ports, or they have a recent PC with USB-C ports, or they have an iPad and a USB-C charger from that. Probably it's a tiny minority who are in your situation. Would you have rather paid extra for the phone and not gotten to choose your preferred charging method? This way you can go out and get a MagSafe charger, which is better anyway.