4 ms·

> It would be like classical guitarists arguing over which brand of footstool improves performance the most. The keyboard is actually a very intimate aspect o

> It would be like classical guitarists arguing over which brand of footstool improves performance the most. The keyboard is actually a very intimate aspect of your interaction with your computer. For many folks this is important. Minutia about the "effect on performance" is not really a concern (IMHO if people are being honest). The real thing is how the keyboard FEELS, the sensory feedback-- sounds, tactile and appearance. It's also a way to customize something to your liking even if you're "doing a job" on the computer, much like wearing a tie of one's choice gave corporate workers an outlet for some individual expression back in the day. I doubt anyone "argues" about keyboards unless they're being forced to use one they don't like. And most folks can do just fine on a wide variety of keyboards-- although the really alien-ones like the Atreus and those hipster ortho's necessitate a learning curve and motor skills development.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
> It's also a way to customize something to your liking This too. It can be another way to express yourself. The same reason people care about desktop UI, wallpaper, themes, etc.
black_puppydog 5y ago
> I doubt anyone "argues" about keyboards unless they're being forced to use one they don't like. This! I was fine with just about any keyboard I had, including random scrap ones I got from various employers whenever I needed one for some reason. The standard 10 bucks models. Until I got my XPS13 2in1 and the keyboard was so abysmally bad that I had an allergic reaction to it and went all-in on mechanical keyboards. I finally ended up with one of "the really alien-ones": the Let's Tango which is a "hipster ortho" :P Edit: had pasted the wrong quote :D
- aaronmu 5y ago
  I've been using a Planck for the past couple of months but after seeing your post I'll have to get a "Let's Tango". Why oh why did I have to see this. I was satisfied.
  - black_puppydog 5y ago
    I am sorry. :D If you like the layout and want to "dip" your feet in, go with a "let's split" first. That's what the tango is based on, but minus the milled case. I used this for a good 18 months until I recently decided to upgrade, realizing that despite my efforts to improve on it, this minimal layout was what stuck with me. I wrote a bit about it here, also made some potato pictures: https://ssb.muchmuch.coffee/%25dbEXC3mtHL8%2Bg1P4lGiE0FhMAGcAiXmpqx1444lSxes%3D.sha256 https://ssb.muchmuch.coffee/%25dbEXC3mtHL8%2Bg1P4lGiE0FhMAGc...
  - Osiris 5y ago
    This is an amusing response given the parent's comment. You're perfectly happy with what you have, so what's the reason why you're interested in switching now after reading about a different keyboard?
- bikingbismuth 5y ago
  I thought Plancks looked neat so I built one and haven’t look back. This will be my 6th year as an ortho-ian.
WhyNotHugo 5y ago
"effect on performance" isn't just about typing speed. If my arms start to hurt and I need to pause more often and for more type, it's also a negative. Oh, and ortholinear is really quick to get used to, and have improve hand comfort a lot for me.
maxmalkav 5y ago
I could not agree more with this (as a person down that rabbit hole) :-)

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago

> It's also a way to customize something to your liking This too. It can be another way to express yourself. The same reason people care about desktop UI, wallpaper, themes, etc.

black_puppydog 5y ago

> I doubt anyone "argues" about keyboards unless they're being forced to use one they don't like. This! I was fine with just about any keyboard I had, including random scrap ones I got from various employers whenever I needed one for some reason. The standard 10 bucks models. Until I got my XPS13 2in1 and the keyboard was so abysmally bad that I had an allergic reaction to it and went all-in on mechanical keyboards. I finally ended up with one of "the really alien-ones": the Let's Tango which is a "hipster ortho" :P Edit: had pasted the wrong quote :D

aaronmu 5y ago
I've been using a Planck for the past couple of months but after seeing your post I'll have to get a "Let's Tango". Why oh why did I have to see this. I was satisfied.
- black_puppydog 5y ago
  I am sorry. :D If you like the layout and want to "dip" your feet in, go with a "let's split" first. That's what the tango is based on, but minus the milled case. I used this for a good 18 months until I recently decided to upgrade, realizing that despite my efforts to improve on it, this minimal layout was what stuck with me. I wrote a bit about it here, also made some potato pictures: https://ssb.muchmuch.coffee/%25dbEXC3mtHL8%2Bg1P4lGiE0FhMAGcAiXmpqx1444lSxes%3D.sha256 https://ssb.muchmuch.coffee/%25dbEXC3mtHL8%2Bg1P4lGiE0FhMAGc...
- Osiris 5y ago
  This is an amusing response given the parent's comment. You're perfectly happy with what you have, so what's the reason why you're interested in switching now after reading about a different keyboard?
bikingbismuth 5y ago
I thought Plancks looked neat so I built one and haven’t look back. This will be my 6th year as an ortho-ian.

WhyNotHugo 5y ago

"effect on performance" isn't just about typing speed. If my arms start to hurt and I need to pause more often and for more type, it's also a negative. Oh, and ortholinear is really quick to get used to, and have improve hand comfort a lot for me.

maxmalkav 5y ago

I could not agree more with this (as a person down that rabbit hole) :-)