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excellent points. I'm still upset about the 3.5mm headphone jack to be honest.

reaperducer 5y ago
I'm still upset about the 3.5mm headphone jack to be honest. I'm still upset† about the 30-pin connector. I can no longer stick my iPhone into the slot on the top of my clock radio just so trillion-dollar Apple can lock me into its 30% walled accessories garden that prevents me from doing what I want with my own hardware that I paid for and have no other options. (Did I miss any HN clichés?) (I'm actually slightly upset† about the iPhone not coming with a cleaning cloth anymore. I've been using my original one for 15 years, and it's starting to get worn out.) † For varying definitions of "upset."
- quantified 5y ago
  This comes across as mocking, did you mean it that way? I wasn’t a fan of proprietary connectors either. 3.5mm jack is as standard as it gets. Plug your phone into any audio equipment, like a guitar amp with a 3.5mm -> 1/4” adapter. Bluetooth = tons of exotic e-waste, thank you very much.
  - spacemanmatt 5y ago
    For years, I rolled with a BT adapter that produced the signal on a standard 3.5mm audio jack, and a typical "aux" cable. Never failed -- if I ended up at an unplanned gathering, it took 3 of us to make music happen, and it wouldn't have been possible without my adapter.
  - whyoh 5y ago
    I like to have the 3.5mm jack too, but the reality is that the vast majority of users don't miss it. That's because they either don't use headphones at all, or because they prefer wireless ones anyway. So as much as I personally don't like it, it makes sense from Apple's POV. The arguably bigger annoyance and source of e-waste is that iPhones still use a proprietary charging port instead of USB-C.
    - ryandrake 5y ago
      The amazing thing to me is: They removed the headphone jack 6 years ago and people are still complaining about it. I have a feeling, 20 years from now, some of these people will be sitting in their old-folks homes, not remembering who their kids are, but will still be complaining about Apple getting rid of their headphone jacks. I've never seen such attachment to a feature.
      - quantified 5y ago
        Detachment from the replacement. I only upgraded in the last few months. Not one of the people that budgets $1G/year to own a phone. Am I complaining loudly? No. Do I want to ditch my wired things and get deeper into bluetooth insecurity, battery life issues and e-waste of bluetooth devices? Definitely no. Since I drive a stick better than my CVT shifts, and I can get much better gas mileage, I also prefer that older technology. Not going to look for ways to mock on people here, seems to be a thing today!
larrik 5y ago
the look on my wife's face when I told her she couldn't listen to music and charge her phone at the same time...

I'm still upset about the 3.5mm headphone jack to be honest. I'm still upset† about the 30-pin connector. I can no longer stick my iPhone into the slot on the top of my clock radio just so trillion-dollar Apple can lock me into its 30% walled accessories garden that prevents me from doing what I want with my own hardware that I paid for and have no other options. (Did I miss any HN clichés?) (I'm actually slightly upset† about the iPhone not coming with a cleaning cloth anymore. I've been using my original one for 15 years, and it's starting to get worn out.) † For varying definitions of "upset."

quantified 5y ago
This comes across as mocking, did you mean it that way? I wasn’t a fan of proprietary connectors either. 3.5mm jack is as standard as it gets. Plug your phone into any audio equipment, like a guitar amp with a 3.5mm -> 1/4” adapter. Bluetooth = tons of exotic e-waste, thank you very much.
- spacemanmatt 5y ago
  For years, I rolled with a BT adapter that produced the signal on a standard 3.5mm audio jack, and a typical "aux" cable. Never failed -- if I ended up at an unplanned gathering, it took 3 of us to make music happen, and it wouldn't have been possible without my adapter.
- whyoh 5y ago
  I like to have the 3.5mm jack too, but the reality is that the vast majority of users don't miss it. That's because they either don't use headphones at all, or because they prefer wireless ones anyway. So as much as I personally don't like it, it makes sense from Apple's POV. The arguably bigger annoyance and source of e-waste is that iPhones still use a proprietary charging port instead of USB-C.
  - ryandrake 5y ago
    The amazing thing to me is: They removed the headphone jack 6 years ago and people are still complaining about it. I have a feeling, 20 years from now, some of these people will be sitting in their old-folks homes, not remembering who their kids are, but will still be complaining about Apple getting rid of their headphone jacks. I've never seen such attachment to a feature.
    - quantified 5y ago
      Detachment from the replacement. I only upgraded in the last few months. Not one of the people that budgets $1G/year to own a phone. Am I complaining loudly? No. Do I want to ditch my wired things and get deeper into bluetooth insecurity, battery life issues and e-waste of bluetooth devices? Definitely no. Since I drive a stick better than my CVT shifts, and I can get much better gas mileage, I also prefer that older technology. Not going to look for ways to mock on people here, seems to be a thing today!

larrik 5y ago

the look on my wife's face when I told her she couldn't listen to music and charge her phone at the same time...