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But what can’t be argued against in good faith is that the planet would be better off if Apple ceased all manufacturing operations. Painting them as anything ot

by bogwog 5y ago

But what can’t be argued against in good faith is that the planet would be better off if Apple ceased all manufacturing operations. Painting them as anything other than an eco-villain is simply dishonest. There are other manufacturers out there destroying the planet, but Apple is without a doubt one of the worst, and not just because of their massive scale. They seem to be on a mission to create as much e-waste as possible, making their devices difficult to repair and using their lawyers to make it even harder.

ben_w 5y ago
> But what can’t be argued against in good faith is that the planet would be better off if Apple ceased all manufacturing operations. Hmm… I mean, if they stopped making stuff themselves they’d be outsourcing more, but assuming you mean they don’t cause anything to be built even in their name, sure. > Painting them as anything other than an eco-villain is simply dishonest. Regular reports about how much they’re reducing emissions in their entire supply chain, that they themselves are already carbon neutral in the US, and are on a path to get the supply chain and product life cycle carbon neutral by 2030? Sure, they’re not perfect, but a villain? Nope. > They seem to be on a mission to create as much e-waste as possible Funny way of doing that, by removing redundant stuff from their sales. I’d certainly like it if their stuff was easier to repair — my first-gen Apple Watch only died last year and could’ve been saved if the screen hadn’t cracked when the battery expanded, and my MacBook Air from mid-2013 is still working but could use a new keyboard and battery and one new USB port and the power cable is a disaster — but 8 years is a fantastic duration compared to any tech I’ve ever used, possibly excluding the things my family bought before I was aware: a Commodore 64, a Video 2000 cassette recorder, a landline telephone, and a cathode ray TV (but even then some of the buttons fell off).

by bogwog 5y ago

ben_w 5y ago

> But what can’t be argued against in good faith is that the planet would be better off if Apple ceased all manufacturing operations. Hmm… I mean, if they stopped making stuff themselves they’d be outsourcing more, but assuming you mean they don’t cause anything to be built even in their name, sure. > Painting them as anything other than an eco-villain is simply dishonest. Regular reports about how much they’re reducing emissions in their entire supply chain, that they themselves are already carbon neutral in the US, and are on a path to get the supply chain and product life cycle carbon neutral by 2030? Sure, they’re not perfect, but a villain? Nope. > They seem to be on a mission to create as much e-waste as possible Funny way of doing that, by removing redundant stuff from their sales. I’d certainly like it if their stuff was easier to repair — my first-gen Apple Watch only died last year and could’ve been saved if the screen hadn’t cracked when the battery expanded, and my MacBook Air from mid-2013 is still working but could use a new keyboard and battery and one new USB port and the power cable is a disaster — but 8 years is a fantastic duration compared to any tech I’ve ever used, possibly excluding the things my family bought before I was aware: a Commodore 64, a Video 2000 cassette recorder, a landline telephone, and a cathode ray TV (but even then some of the buttons fell off).