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I think the "dey took our jawbs" line is a little bit of a red herring here. Sure, there's an impact, but automation and outsourcing are both bigger impacts, a

by jbooth 15y ago

I think the "dey took our jawbs" line is a little bit of a red herring here. Sure, there's an impact, but automation and outsourcing are both bigger impacts, and for all 3, they're here, we better deal with them. I feel like a path to citizenship would bring the wages for these jobs back above-ground and create a fair marketplace for labor where people could compete. What's the other option, "ship them all back to latin america"? If you think that's a good idea, I'd invite you to think about what that enforcement action would look like, and if it fits into your concept of "America". EDIT: Watches blanket downvotes without counter-proposal or likely even reading my comments. Whoever that is should run for the House.

lotharbot 15y ago
I downvoted you for presuming he prefers "ship them all back to latin america". That sort of douchebaggery does not belong on Hacker News. (I agree with most of the rest of what you say in this post.)
- jbooth 15y ago
  Fine, edited to modify the presumption wording. Frankly, it seemed like the next obvious step from his initial complaint. We're talking about underemployment and he brings up immigrants out of nowhere as a scapegoat? Was that a prelude to an argument for amnesty? It's not my fault if it sounds bad. And accusing me of quote "douchebaggery" while being high and mighty about what belongs on hacker news is a little rich.
  - hugh3 15y ago
    Hey, I'm just musing on the causes of unemployment. For the record, I do support deporting illegal immigrants back to wherever they're from, and I'm shocked that this is even controversial in this country. I'm not actually even an American. I'm merely temporarily here on a visa. But once you've spent as much time and money on US visa renewals as I have, you don't have much sympathy for the line-jumpers who enter the country illegally.
    - jbooth 15y ago
      Well, thanks for justifying my presumption :)

by jbooth 15y ago

lotharbot 15y ago

I downvoted you for presuming he prefers "ship them all back to latin america". That sort of douchebaggery does not belong on Hacker News. (I agree with most of the rest of what you say in this post.)

jbooth 15y ago
Fine, edited to modify the presumption wording. Frankly, it seemed like the next obvious step from his initial complaint. We're talking about underemployment and he brings up immigrants out of nowhere as a scapegoat? Was that a prelude to an argument for amnesty? It's not my fault if it sounds bad. And accusing me of quote "douchebaggery" while being high and mighty about what belongs on hacker news is a little rich.
- hugh3 15y ago
  Hey, I'm just musing on the causes of unemployment. For the record, I do support deporting illegal immigrants back to wherever they're from, and I'm shocked that this is even controversial in this country. I'm not actually even an American. I'm merely temporarily here on a visa. But once you've spent as much time and money on US visa renewals as I have, you don't have much sympathy for the line-jumpers who enter the country illegally.
  - jbooth 15y ago
    Well, thanks for justifying my presumption :)