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Whatever helps you sleep at night, malware developer. You certainly came out of the woodwork with that comment. It must have struck a nerve. Not many people go
by randomhodler84 5y ago
Whatever helps you sleep at night, malware developer.
You certainly came out of the woodwork with that comment. It must have struck a nerve. Not many people go around defending stuxnet, a malware tale for the ages in bad fucking intelligence operations.
- stuxneteer 5y agoI’m sure the people behind Stuxnet are proud of their work (and they should be!), they significantly disrupted the Iranian nuclear program without hurting anybody, without causing any collateral damage. I’m not sure what special meaning “malware” holds to you that would automatically render their actions immoral. Preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons is absolutely a good cause. > Not many people go around defending stuxnet, a malware tale for the ages in bad fucking intelligence operations. Literally nobody actually working in this field would agree with you. Stuxnet was a very successful operation.
- randomhodler84 5y agoYou keep saying no collateral damage. 40% of systems infected were outside Iran. The developers should be ashamed they took a clean surgical implant and wormed it up. Lots of collateral damage, even if you choose to ignore it. The mission was successful, at great cost. If you have any involvement in such shady business, I encourage you to stop.
- rosndo 5y agoWhat great cost? Stuxnet did exactly nothing to harm systems that it wasn’t specifically targeting.
- randomhodler84 5y agoClap Emoji STOP WRITING MALWARE Clap Emoji Seriously, this is dumb. I understand that you took offense to likening Stuxnet to WC, And yes, NK/RU made a much bigger mess than US/IL, but it’s all malware to those of us outside of the great game. I have the same opinion of the Stuxnet authors as I do with the wannacry authors, they are Malware dev scum.
- rosndo 5y agoSo you don’t actually have anything intelligent to say on this topic? > but it’s all malware to those of us outside of the great game That’s hardly true, is it? Stuxnet didn’t even exist for those “not in the game”, whereas Wannacry and NotPetya indiscriminately destroyed the files of those people. If you weren’t in the game, Stuxnet was just a news story and at most yet another vague alert from your antivirus. The people behind Stuxnet, Flame, Duqu and Gauss should be praised for pushing the envelope on responsible cyberwarfare. Years later, researchers still haven’t been able to decrypt some of their modules as the targeting is just so specific.
- randomhodler84 5y agoRESPONSIBLE!!!! That word. It’s such a shibboleth. We should never celebrate the tools of war. We should not praise those that pushed the envelope us further into cyberwarfare. Cyberwar is bad, mkay. The very fact they were discovered, are being analyzed today, and started a global normalization of deviance with respect to fucking each other’s cybers up is a failure in my opinion.
- rosndo 5y agoDo you believe that the alternative of letting the Israelis bomb Iranian nuclear facilities would have been better? That’s what they would have done if not for Stuxnet.
- randomhodler84 5y agoLet me explain, I think we are arguing very different things. I am making a technical distinction about writing code, in that once you turn a tool of art into something less discriminate like a worm, or hide malicious and obfuscated code one crosses the line to doing active harm against your mission, whatever that is. I am not making any geopolitical statement or position on the outcome or actions beyond that which I consider a technical foul play to hurt others with software, malicious software, malicious intent. There are surely more elegant tools to wield.