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This has nothing to do with any of that, and you are trying to change the goalposts. Guy writes malware, malware hurts peoples systems. Where they are is irrele
by randomhodler84 5y ago
This has nothing to do with any of that, and you are trying to change the goalposts. Guy writes malware, malware hurts peoples systems. Where they are is irrelevant.
- stuxneteer 5y agoWhy is “malware” so special to you? Guy writes sanctions, sanctions hurt people. Guy writes tweets at companies insisting they should pull out of Russia, companies pull out of Russia, people are hurt. What’s the big difference here? What is it about “malware” that necessitates special treatment?
- _Algernon_ 5y agoSanctions hit Russia, while malware hits people outside Russia for one. It's even less targeted than economic sanctions.
- stuxneteer 5y agoSanctions hit people outside of Russia. Russian visas and mastercards stopped working abroad regardless of the cardholders nationality. Many businesses outside of Russia are also severely impacted. Malware can be just as targeted as economic sanctions. The node-ipc “malware” certainly was.
- _Algernon_ 5y agoHow about this then? The sanctions are implemented by a wide ranging alliance of democratically elected governments, meaning they have a mandate behind them and legitimacy. These malware efforts are vigilantism.
- stuxneteer 5y agoThese malware efforts are not too different from western companies voluntarily pulling out of Russia, they’re also engaging in their own kind of “vigilantism”. The question is whether or not this kind of “vigilantism” is bad. It’s not obvious to me that it’s any worse than McDonalds or LVMH shutting down their stores in Russia. There’s no doubt sanctions have wider backing, but that’s hardly a moral argument. The legal side is indisputable and pointless to debate.
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- randomhodler84 5y agoI would say it’s because writing malicious software, basically casting magic spells in digital land to force sand to do math with the intent to cause harm is this ages evil. Voldemort behavior. A 21st century sociopathy, and we should as a society recognize that people that have the power to cause great pain on others should be prevented from doing such. This is a good versus evil thing played out in a world that the muggles only dream of. I am both exhilarated and horrified every day by the actions of the internet wizards.
- rosndo 5y agoSanctions laws are just as opaque to the muggles as digital magic spells, also easily far more damaging than even the worst malware the world has seen.
- randomhodler84 5y agoYeah but I’m not talking about sanctions I’m talking about writing malware. Nukes are the worst tool yet, even worse than malware. This isn’t an equivalence game, and I don’t think sanctions have anything to do with writing malware.
- rosndo 5y agoSo you also think that sanctions against Russia are evil? If not, what’s the big difference that makes Russia-targeted malware more evil than the vastly more destructive economic sanctions?
- randomhodler84 5y agoYou want to find equivalence. And you want others to agree with you with equivalence. I won’t provide that because it’s bullshit. I am talking about jerks writing malware and hurting systems and you keep talking about sanctions. Buddy. You are obsessed with sanctions. Is it to do with your wife’s fathers billions?