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What a dumb idea… similar with other ongoing sanctions and group responsibility. It sounds like there are a lot activists who consider themselves as true right
by sso7 5y ago
What a dumb idea… similar with other ongoing sanctions and group responsibility. It sounds like there are a lot activists who consider themselves as true right doers. You are oversimplifying the world by your naive and arrogant thinking. What do you know about “russians” you are going to affect? Just because they are living within the country does it mean they are supporting they government. But you want to make their life even harder? From their perspective the whole world is against them without any distinction only because of their nationality. And no they would not make rebellion, but rather switch to government propaganda that “west hates us and wants our collapse”.
Right, your activism saved the situation and stopped war… or?
Think about this before oversimplifying
I am Ukrainian and my partner is Russian, both having families in these countries. We already see the impact of western sanctions, they are not affecting government the same way they are hurting people living there. And one more thing. While Ukrainian government calls to west to leave Russian market to reduce money flow to Russian, one of main income for Russian government - gas pipeline to EU goes through Ukraine and no one even tries to sabotage it to really affect finances of hostile gov.
I am against the war, but it does not mean I will built my ego by making other people to suffer only because it is a trend nowadays unfortunately in western world too
- rosndo 5y agoHmm, a throwaway account with a single comment constructing a straw man to argue against western sanctions for the war. It’s simply an unfortunate reality that the Russian state can’t be punished for their actions without collateral damage. The purpose of the sanctions is to economically punish Russia in order to ensure that Russia and others do not repeat the same actions in the future. Furthermore, the sanctions create a huge distraction for the Russian leadership that’s already very busy with their war effort. Within months, the sanctions will also severely disrupt Russian military supply chains as they rely heavily on imports. > And no they would not make rebellion, but rather switch to government propaganda that “west hates us and wants our collapse”. Yeah, nobody cares. This isn’t the purpose of the sanctions. > my partner is Russian, both having families in these countries Same. My in-laws control one of the biggest exporters in Russia, their business has been severely hurt by the sanctions. Despite this, you won’t find many arguing against the sanctions in our circles, it’s simply the appropriate response to Putin’s folly.
- sso7 5y agoOn account, I have it for couple of years and using it for bookmarks, so your judgement is far from correct. On sanctions I can agree there is no other way, but lets dont compare economic sanctions with random marketing ones just to share on social media and put badge “i punished russians” What about having same reaction of activists for Iraq, Serbia, Libya? Nah because, it was a “right thing”, only bad guys are died there. Or because most of nowadays activists are living within invading countries? Again I am not supporting Russian war or government, I am raising my voice against infant activism, where main reason behind is building up own ego or marketing purposes and nothing what is affecting the real problem.
- xdennis 5y agoThat's how war works. When you shoot an invader, do you think that the invader necessarily supported the war? No, but you have to defend yourself. If we're not going to bomb Russia we need to at least use all economic sanctions. That has unintended consequences. But that's war. The only solution is for Russia to surrender. We can't afford to be week because the enemy isn't. They're targeting civilians and we're thinking about the economic wellbeing of Russians? What nonsense.