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# insert "{{President Biden's}} poor economic policies have led to..." into db “Error: PoliticalProtestInSQLModule error at or near ‘poor economic policies’

# insert "{{President Biden's}} poor economic policies have led to..." into db “Error: PoliticalProtestInSQLModule error at or near ‘poor economic policies’ - Postgres has determined that you are ignorant and wrong, and includes this warning in the off chance you are open to listening to reason. Be thankful we still let you insert the string into the DB.” See the problem? Again, you're failing to distinguish between politics of protest at the point of service and elsewhere. Including this at the point of service is literally how you get these disasters like sabotage, but even before that it'd be absolutely unacceptable to have political messages in the software we use. Does the current war of aggression against Ukraine mean that it's okay to include 'Putin is a real piece of shit' in his wikipedia article? No, because obviously that's just a road to destroying its credibility and generating far worse outcomes for everyone.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
Look, I’m not new to this discussion. My interest in acts of protest is rooted in anti-colonialism. It predates the internet, electricity, and the majority of the British Empire. It spans centuries of wars and the rise and decline of organized labor. I’ve vandalized Wikipedia for sillier reasons, and it absolutely does deserve to briefly say that Putin is indeed a piece of shit, because he certainly is. I’m not failing to distinguish anything. We, humans, live on a planet with other humans. We make complex choices every day about how we participate and the compromises we do or don’t accept. Every technology that has any meaning for real people has a role in that. We cannot be neutral even if we wish to be, we don’t even know what neutral is. When I say that my interest is rooted in anti-colonialism, I’m trying to be very clear: people who were and have been regarded as non-existent rightly used disruption and even violence to be more seen and heard. It doesn’t have to be violent. It does have to be disruptive. You don’t get to determine the terms of that, you just have to accept that what’s neutral to you might not be neutral to others… and let your moral judgment be what it is. Edit: and yes I did see if I could edit the Putin page to say he’s a piece of shit, of course I could not. But I certainly would have.
- hn92726819 5y ago
  > I’ve vandalized Wikipedia for sillier reasons, and it absolutely does deserve to briefly say that Putin is indeed a piece of shit What is your goal with doing this? Do you expect someone will be persuaded to dislike Putin because of this? Do you think it's acceptable for Putin supporters to vandalize Ukraine's Wikipedia page? You can say "politics is in everything", but that hasn't stopped Wikipedia from being a pretty good resource for information. Do you think everyone's protests should be kept up and Wikipedia be a wasteland of vandalism? Or are you relying on volunteers to spend their time taking down your vandalism? Wikipedia's rules for content seem pretty good. They take down blatant political bias. I would call that "no politics", but I presume you wouldn't call it that. Why not expect this in OSS?

eyelidlessness 5y ago

Look, I’m not new to this discussion. My interest in acts of protest is rooted in anti-colonialism. It predates the internet, electricity, and the majority of the British Empire. It spans centuries of wars and the rise and decline of organized labor. I’ve vandalized Wikipedia for sillier reasons, and it absolutely does deserve to briefly say that Putin is indeed a piece of shit, because he certainly is. I’m not failing to distinguish anything. We, humans, live on a planet with other humans. We make complex choices every day about how we participate and the compromises we do or don’t accept. Every technology that has any meaning for real people has a role in that. We cannot be neutral even if we wish to be, we don’t even know what neutral is. When I say that my interest is rooted in anti-colonialism, I’m trying to be very clear: people who were and have been regarded as non-existent rightly used disruption and even violence to be more seen and heard. It doesn’t have to be violent. It does have to be disruptive. You don’t get to determine the terms of that, you just have to accept that what’s neutral to you might not be neutral to others… and let your moral judgment be what it is. Edit: and yes I did see if I could edit the Putin page to say he’s a piece of shit, of course I could not. But I certainly would have.

hn92726819 5y ago
> I’ve vandalized Wikipedia for sillier reasons, and it absolutely does deserve to briefly say that Putin is indeed a piece of shit What is your goal with doing this? Do you expect someone will be persuaded to dislike Putin because of this? Do you think it's acceptable for Putin supporters to vandalize Ukraine's Wikipedia page? You can say "politics is in everything", but that hasn't stopped Wikipedia from being a pretty good resource for information. Do you think everyone's protests should be kept up and Wikipedia be a wasteland of vandalism? Or are you relying on volunteers to spend their time taking down your vandalism? Wikipedia's rules for content seem pretty good. They take down blatant political bias. I would call that "no politics", but I presume you wouldn't call it that. Why not expect this in OSS?