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> non-woke corporations They never went away, you just don't hear about them because they don't publicly pat themselves on the back every time they signal thei

> non-woke corporations They never went away, you just don't hear about them because they don't publicly pat themselves on the back every time they signal their virtue...

sascha_sl 5y ago
The wokeness of most corporations is nothing but marketing, and I'm saying that as a trans person who has worked with supposedly woke corporations (rainbow flag at every location's entrance) that had done nothing within their culture to make my situation less awkward. Though I wish the "anti woke" would see that this helps nobody who is actually marginalized, it's just feel good for naive liberals. Companies for which inclusion and diversity is less than a slogan exist, but they are very far and few between. We'd rather want safe access to healthcare than corporations throwing pride flags on their logo until exactly midnight of the next month once a year. Thanks.
- sdoering 5y ago
  I know quite a few companies that proudly show their diversity efforts and talk about diverse hiring. They even actively work on gender fair compensation and promotion. And all these things. The point I wanted to make is that I know of the same companies described above how they let 'minor infractions' from some individuals pass. Minor infractions being quotes like 'Women belong in the kitchen', dick pics, and questioning non binary people if they just need to be with a real man for once. I found wokeness more often than not to be the social greenwashing of our time.
  - sascha_sl 5y ago
    I've made this experience with regional offices having a vastly different culture from the main office. In one place I was extremely happy to be able to work remote, becauase using bathrooms in their office (either, really) turned into rolling a dice of risking awkward confrontation always brushed off when I dared talk about it in my HR JF. Sometimes these conversations turn comical, because the "direction" I'm transitioning isn't obvious to some people, leading me into being gatekept from the _wrong_ facility. Of course that problem exists in most public places as a non-passing trans person, but I'd at least be spared from this at work.
    - sdoering 5y ago
      I am trying actively to understand experiences like these to be part of a better workplace culture/experience. What I often find difficult is how to approach these subjects from a position of genuine interest without putting people off. Without being insensitive. I know there is no "cookbook" of talking to other people. But sometimes I wish to me it were more easy to share and learn.
      - sascha_sl 5y ago
        When I came out, the company I was working for at the time attempted to put me in a "working group for dealing with trans people". I begrundingly agreed to this, but it turned out they didn't want me as an advisor. I dug out precedent for name change without a legal change (it's nearly impossible here); they dismissed it and then spent the rest of the meeting telling me they'd have to ask all the women on the floor if they were comfortable with me using the restroom. (I had not requested that whatsoever, i did not male-fail at that point). I handed them a copy of the SAP guidelines[1] (this was a much smaller company than SAP) and bailed. If you want to do it right, hire a real consultant. Thankfully a few months later there was a change of leadership, and my name was changed in Slack/AD with no problems whatsoever. 1: https://www.charta-der-vielfalt.de/uploads/tx_dreipccdvdiversity/Richtlinien%20zur%20Geschlechtsangleichung.pdf https://www.charta-der-vielfalt.de/uploads/tx_dreipccdvdiver...

> non-woke corporations They never went away, you just don't hear about them because they don't publicly pat themselves on the back every time they signal their virtue...

sascha_sl 5y ago

The wokeness of most corporations is nothing but marketing, and I'm saying that as a trans person who has worked with supposedly woke corporations (rainbow flag at every location's entrance) that had done nothing within their culture to make my situation less awkward. Though I wish the "anti woke" would see that this helps nobody who is actually marginalized, it's just feel good for naive liberals. Companies for which inclusion and diversity is less than a slogan exist, but they are very far and few between. We'd rather want safe access to healthcare than corporations throwing pride flags on their logo until exactly midnight of the next month once a year. Thanks.

sdoering 5y ago
I know quite a few companies that proudly show their diversity efforts and talk about diverse hiring. They even actively work on gender fair compensation and promotion. And all these things. The point I wanted to make is that I know of the same companies described above how they let 'minor infractions' from some individuals pass. Minor infractions being quotes like 'Women belong in the kitchen', dick pics, and questioning non binary people if they just need to be with a real man for once. I found wokeness more often than not to be the social greenwashing of our time.
- sascha_sl 5y ago
  I've made this experience with regional offices having a vastly different culture from the main office. In one place I was extremely happy to be able to work remote, becauase using bathrooms in their office (either, really) turned into rolling a dice of risking awkward confrontation always brushed off when I dared talk about it in my HR JF. Sometimes these conversations turn comical, because the "direction" I'm transitioning isn't obvious to some people, leading me into being gatekept from the _wrong_ facility. Of course that problem exists in most public places as a non-passing trans person, but I'd at least be spared from this at work.
  - sdoering 5y ago
    I am trying actively to understand experiences like these to be part of a better workplace culture/experience. What I often find difficult is how to approach these subjects from a position of genuine interest without putting people off. Without being insensitive. I know there is no "cookbook" of talking to other people. But sometimes I wish to me it were more easy to share and learn.
    - sascha_sl 5y ago
      When I came out, the company I was working for at the time attempted to put me in a "working group for dealing with trans people". I begrundingly agreed to this, but it turned out they didn't want me as an advisor. I dug out precedent for name change without a legal change (it's nearly impossible here); they dismissed it and then spent the rest of the meeting telling me they'd have to ask all the women on the floor if they were comfortable with me using the restroom. (I had not requested that whatsoever, i did not male-fail at that point). I handed them a copy of the SAP guidelines[1] (this was a much smaller company than SAP) and bailed. If you want to do it right, hire a real consultant. Thankfully a few months later there was a change of leadership, and my name was changed in Slack/AD with no problems whatsoever. 1: https://www.charta-der-vielfalt.de/uploads/tx_dreipccdvdiversity/Richtlinien%20zur%20Geschlechtsangleichung.pdf https://www.charta-der-vielfalt.de/uploads/tx_dreipccdvdiver...