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What ends up happening is, since the automated systems are stationary, their location becomes known, so the drivers speed everywhere except just before the auto
by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
What ends up happening is, since the automated systems are stationary, their location becomes known, so the drivers speed everywhere except just before the automated system. And they generally slow down in a rather dramatic and unsafe fashion.
- standardUser 5y agoObviously we need a more robust system. The fact that the current system is lacking does not mean that all possible systems would be. It means the very opposite - the current methods have ample room for improvement.
- lazide 5y agoMaybe drones that follow everyone around and shoot missiles at them if they speed?
- oneeyedpigeon 5y agoIn the UK, my satnav specifically tells me when I'm approaching a speed camera. I'm not sure why that's legal.
- sokoloff 5y ago(As an American,) I’m puzzled at the thought that that wouldn’t be legal. To me, that seems like it should be protected free speech.
- krapp 5y agoDo machines have the right to free speech?
- sokoloff 5y agoThe authors of the GPS software and the buyers of the GPS do.
- oneeyedpigeon 5y agoWell, in Europe we do have a different take on the whole free speech/consequence balance, so I totally recognise that! I guess I see it a bit like a device which could block ANPR (automatic number plate recognition) - i.e. a device which is designed to allow users to break the law.
- sokoloff 5y agoAlternately, a device that encourages users to comply with the law via particularly well-timed, targeted reminders. :) I don’t recall if it’s Germany or Switzerland (or elsewhere in Europe somewhere) where I’ve seen official signs warning of a speed camera just ahead. Are those signs encouraging breaking the law elsewhere?
- pmyteh 5y agoThe official rationale for speed cameras in the UK is to reduce speeds in areas of danger, not to raise money from speeding fines (though the "safety camera partnerships" have certainly tried to do the latter too). So the cameras are painted bright yellow and their inclusion in satnav databases is actually encouraged on the basis that it highlights danger spots and encourages compliance with the limit. Which is honestly a bit inconsistent with the way our law enforcement normally works, but there we go.
- 2muchcoffeeman 5y agoAren't you warned in the US well before the camera's location? In Sydney lots of people complain about the speed cameras but except for the mobile cameras, there are huge honking signs telling you there is a camera ahead. Most people will start to slow down well before the camera. On our highways we also have average speed cameras, 2 cameras will take a shot and if your average was too high, you get fined. But these are also well signed. Yet people still get caught all the time. I'd have more sympathy for the people getting caught except that they are literally given a cheat sheet on the road for when to slow down and not get caught.
- sofixa 5y agoI don't recall who it is that said that, but it's still a win. People will start driving slower and more cautiously some time before the cameras ( not just in front of it, because they're probably not the only ones on the road and the drivers in front of them will need to do the same), in both directions, so you end up with tons of drivers driving more cautiously for a few km. Especially if you put the cameras in dangerous sections of the road, you can have a huge reduction in road incidents.