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Inferno is the 'successor' to / a descendant of Plan 9: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_La

Inferno is the 'successor' to / a descendant of Plan 9: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(operating_system)

kragen 5y ago
And the predecessor of Golang.
- deleted 5y ago
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- pjmlp 5y ago
  That would be Limbo, and the language is called Go.
  - kragen 5y ago
    Yup. I don't know if you've noticed, I try to be careful to include enough context in my comments to disambiguate multiple candidate meanings, and "Go" is not specific enough.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Go is more than specific enough, unless you go writing the name in lowercase.
      - kragen 5y ago
        Take it up with the people who named the golang-nuts and golang-dev mailing lists, then.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        That is not the name of the programming language. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(programming_language) I don't see people saying Dlang, Clang, Javalang, C++Lang, Rustlang, Swiftlang,....
        kragen 5y ago
        According to the frequencies of the British National Corpus, "go" is the #99 most common word in English before lemmatization. "Swift" is #5734, about 75× less common. "Rust" is #14616 ("rusty" is only #11333.) The letter "C" as a word by itself is #548, 6× less common than "go", though the BNC was compiled recently enough that its corpus included references to the C programming language and also to C++. "Java" is #19574, 500× less common than "go". "D" is #1033, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(programming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(programming_language) begins, "D, also known as Dlang, is a multi-paradigm system programming language created by Walter Bright at Digital Mars and released in 2001." I commonly see people resorting to elocutions like "Digital Mars D" or "D, the programming language" to clarify. As you surely remember, when C was 13 years old (like Golang is now), it was common for people to write things like "The 'C' programming language" too. (Though not, of course, in Bell Labs or CSRG.) Most programmers only started calling it "C" without any additional qualification after it became the one and only language in which all serious software was written, something that will never happen to Golang. Also, Golang is the second programming language to be called "Go", though the other one was much less popular. Also, "go" is the wrong part of speech, so it induces parsing errors. This is a problem with the game too. So, objectively, saying "Go" is 0.7–2.7 orders of magnitude more likely to cause confusion than your other examples. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is. I'm just glad they didn't try to name the programming language "Of". Or "The¿", or just ",". Pulling back a bit, why do you think it's good to "correct" the word usage of strangers on the internet who haven't asked for your advice? If you see a road sign that says "NO THRU TRAFFIC" do you get out your paintbrush to correct it to say "THROUGH"? And, from the other perspective, you're recommending that I defer to your expertise on English prose style. Why would someone do that? Have you written something that is regarded as an exemplar of English prose style? I have a lot of respect for your technical expertise from your HN comments, but I don't have you mentally tagged as a Brian-Kernighan-caliber writer, much less an Ursula-K.-Le-Guin-caliber writer. Change my mind! Otherwise, just be glad I don't call it "Issue9".
      - webreac 5y ago
        As a go player and reader of the "computer go" magazine, I disagree.
        pjmlp 5y ago
        Google does not care, and I should note that you wrote both go in lowercase.
pjmlp 5y ago
It is a pity that only Plan 9 gets most of the attention in hacker circles and its successor is mostly ignored.
- t0suj4 5y ago
  I think it is so because the original license sucked. They have changed it to MIT just in 2021
- zozbot234 5y ago
  That's partly because many of the core ideas behind Plan9 have since been partly reimplemented in more common OS's like Linux or DragonflyBSD. That's the whole point of a research OS, after all. Inferno has yet to go through that step.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Android, Windows Phone, ...

kragen 5y ago

And the predecessor of Golang.

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pjmlp 5y ago
That would be Limbo, and the language is called Go.
- kragen 5y ago
  Yup. I don't know if you've noticed, I try to be careful to include enough context in my comments to disambiguate multiple candidate meanings, and "Go" is not specific enough.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Go is more than specific enough, unless you go writing the name in lowercase.
    - kragen 5y ago
      Take it up with the people who named the golang-nuts and golang-dev mailing lists, then.
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        That is not the name of the programming language. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(programming_language) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(programming_language) I don't see people saying Dlang, Clang, Javalang, C++Lang, Rustlang, Swiftlang,....
        kragen 5y ago
        According to the frequencies of the British National Corpus, "go" is the #99 most common word in English before lemmatization. "Swift" is #5734, about 75× less common. "Rust" is #14616 ("rusty" is only #11333.) The letter "C" as a word by itself is #548, 6× less common than "go", though the BNC was compiled recently enough that its corpus included references to the C programming language and also to C++. "Java" is #19574, 500× less common than "go". "D" is #1033, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(programming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(programming_language) begins, "D, also known as Dlang, is a multi-paradigm system programming language created by Walter Bright at Digital Mars and released in 2001." I commonly see people resorting to elocutions like "Digital Mars D" or "D, the programming language" to clarify. As you surely remember, when C was 13 years old (like Golang is now), it was common for people to write things like "The 'C' programming language" too. (Though not, of course, in Bell Labs or CSRG.) Most programmers only started calling it "C" without any additional qualification after it became the one and only language in which all serious software was written, something that will never happen to Golang. Also, Golang is the second programming language to be called "Go", though the other one was much less popular. Also, "go" is the wrong part of speech, so it induces parsing errors. This is a problem with the game too. So, objectively, saying "Go" is 0.7–2.7 orders of magnitude more likely to cause confusion than your other examples. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is. I'm just glad they didn't try to name the programming language "Of". Or "The¿", or just ",". Pulling back a bit, why do you think it's good to "correct" the word usage of strangers on the internet who haven't asked for your advice? If you see a road sign that says "NO THRU TRAFFIC" do you get out your paintbrush to correct it to say "THROUGH"? And, from the other perspective, you're recommending that I defer to your expertise on English prose style. Why would someone do that? Have you written something that is regarded as an exemplar of English prose style? I have a lot of respect for your technical expertise from your HN comments, but I don't have you mentally tagged as a Brian-Kernighan-caliber writer, much less an Ursula-K.-Le-Guin-caliber writer. Change my mind! Otherwise, just be glad I don't call it "Issue9".
    - webreac 5y ago
      As a go player and reader of the "computer go" magazine, I disagree.
      - pjmlp 5y ago
        Google does not care, and I should note that you wrote both go in lowercase.

pjmlp 5y ago

It is a pity that only Plan 9 gets most of the attention in hacker circles and its successor is mostly ignored.

t0suj4 5y ago
I think it is so because the original license sucked. They have changed it to MIT just in 2021
zozbot234 5y ago
That's partly because many of the core ideas behind Plan9 have since been partly reimplemented in more common OS's like Linux or DragonflyBSD. That's the whole point of a research OS, after all. Inferno has yet to go through that step.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Android, Windows Phone, ...