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From the linked bugzilla https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677497#c0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677497#c0 >One note, in case it'

From the linked bugzilla https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677497#c0 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677497#c0 >One note, in case it's not already clear: The download token will be available in the telemetry environment, but all web session data that it is linked to will NOT ever be included in telemetry, it is being deliberately kept in a separate data set, and we will be limiting access to the ability to join these data sets to a small set of people. Small set of people? Pls do tell me more

perryizgr8 5y ago
This is very alarming. If web session data will never be included in telemetry, why do some people have to ability to query joins? That means it can happen. Why does this small set of people need to access my web session data? I don't use Firefox regularly, but I have it installed on my computers. I think I'm going to uninstall it completely. This stuff has become more and more common, and is totally unacceptable.
xtanx 5y ago
> Approval granted by Privacy. Good to go. Great job there "Privacy"...
- grey_earthling 5y ago
  This is an example of where openness — which Mozilla used to excel at — would have helped. If there was a detailed rationale considering the potential privacy impact of this change, publicly available, then we'd be able to see that Mozilla did indeed thoughtfully weigh up the consequences of doing this. We may disagree with the decision, but at least we'd be able to see the set of underlying assumptions and point to which one we think is wrong, and perhaps provide evidence to show it's mistaken — constructive feedback. But as it is, we just have an opaque assertion that “this is fine”.
josefx 5y ago
> Small set of people? The entirety of the US government most likely, any hacker that manages to get onto Mozillas servers, every spy agency worth its money, if its choice of research partners has something to say everyone at Meta. So in total maybe a bit bellow a million people. So really just a handful of trusted people.

perryizgr8 5y ago

This is very alarming. If web session data will never be included in telemetry, why do some people have to ability to query joins? That means it can happen. Why does this small set of people need to access my web session data? I don't use Firefox regularly, but I have it installed on my computers. I think I'm going to uninstall it completely. This stuff has become more and more common, and is totally unacceptable.

xtanx 5y ago

> Approval granted by Privacy. Good to go. Great job there "Privacy"...

grey_earthling 5y ago
This is an example of where openness — which Mozilla used to excel at — would have helped. If there was a detailed rationale considering the potential privacy impact of this change, publicly available, then we'd be able to see that Mozilla did indeed thoughtfully weigh up the consequences of doing this. We may disagree with the decision, but at least we'd be able to see the set of underlying assumptions and point to which one we think is wrong, and perhaps provide evidence to show it's mistaken — constructive feedback. But as it is, we just have an opaque assertion that “this is fine”.

josefx 5y ago

> Small set of people? The entirety of the US government most likely, any hacker that manages to get onto Mozillas servers, every spy agency worth its money, if its choice of research partners has something to say everyone at Meta. So in total maybe a bit bellow a million people. So really just a handful of trusted people.