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yes, it's pretty common in audio and I guess in other creative fields.

jancsika 5y ago
It's funny you mention audio. For example, going back to the early 2000s I can't think of a single case of a user reporting such a need on the Pure Data mailing list. And there are a few thousand plugins for it. I guess Csound would be the grandaddy to check. But I have a feeling this would essentially be limited to running old proprietary plugins for which no source is available?
- detaro 5y ago
  With all respect for it, Pure Data (nor csound) is not exactly representative of audio software with plugins overall.
  - jancsika 5y ago
    The only case I can think of that's not represented would be plug-in binaries for which there is no source available.
- jcelerier 5y ago
  > But I have a feeling this would essentially be limited to running old proprietary plugins for which no source is available? Yes, I have some songs from circa 2007-2009 which depend on windows 32-bit versions of freeware plug-ins whose developers have been MIA for 15 years now. Well, now I know better and try to only use software that I can recompile or write for my music (including pd :-)). But then I also spent 10 years not making much music because of that. I also work with artists who keep old 10.6 Macs around in case they'd have to perform one of their past songs.
  - jancsika 5y ago
    > But then I also spent 10 years not making much music because of that. Because of the songs being locked away, or because of having to learn an entirely new software stack? > I also work with artists who keep old 10.6 Macs around in case they'd have to perform one of their past songs. Thanks to the various guild orgs from the early 2000s, many commercial filters from that time period were GPL time-bombed. Regardless, it was likely registered and is still held in the Trust's archive. Contact your local maker rep-- you may be able to make a commons release request and obtain the abandonware key from them. Oops, wrong timeline... glorp
    - jcelerier 5y ago
      > Because of the songs being locked away, or because of having to learn an entirely new software stack? because of writing my own software stack to do exactly what I want aha (https://ossia.io https://ossia.io) > Oops, wrong timeline... you really had my hopes up for a few seconds

It's funny you mention audio. For example, going back to the early 2000s I can't think of a single case of a user reporting such a need on the Pure Data mailing list. And there are a few thousand plugins for it. I guess Csound would be the grandaddy to check. But I have a feeling this would essentially be limited to running old proprietary plugins for which no source is available?

detaro 5y ago
With all respect for it, Pure Data (nor csound) is not exactly representative of audio software with plugins overall.
- jancsika 5y ago
  The only case I can think of that's not represented would be plug-in binaries for which there is no source available.
jcelerier 5y ago
> But I have a feeling this would essentially be limited to running old proprietary plugins for which no source is available? Yes, I have some songs from circa 2007-2009 which depend on windows 32-bit versions of freeware plug-ins whose developers have been MIA for 15 years now. Well, now I know better and try to only use software that I can recompile or write for my music (including pd :-)). But then I also spent 10 years not making much music because of that. I also work with artists who keep old 10.6 Macs around in case they'd have to perform one of their past songs.
- jancsika 5y ago
  > But then I also spent 10 years not making much music because of that. Because of the songs being locked away, or because of having to learn an entirely new software stack? > I also work with artists who keep old 10.6 Macs around in case they'd have to perform one of their past songs. Thanks to the various guild orgs from the early 2000s, many commercial filters from that time period were GPL time-bombed. Regardless, it was likely registered and is still held in the Trust's archive. Contact your local maker rep-- you may be able to make a commons release request and obtain the abandonware key from them. Oops, wrong timeline... glorp
  - jcelerier 5y ago
    > Because of the songs being locked away, or because of having to learn an entirely new software stack? because of writing my own software stack to do exactly what I want aha (https://ossia.io https://ossia.io) > Oops, wrong timeline... you really had my hopes up for a few seconds