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I wonder if hacker news would allow this post if it was American cameras being hacked?
by 5ESS 5y ago
I wonder if hacker news would allow this post if it was American cameras being hacked?
- gruez 5y agoProbably? I remember seeing those sites that list open VNC instances on hn, which is pretty similar.
- spacemanmatt 5y agoYeah, it would sure be weird if HN showed favoritism toward its host country.
- forgotpwd16 5y agoThe world wide version has been posted few times in the past: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=insecam.org https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=insecam.org
- 5ESS 5y agoHosting this link probably makes HN liable to COPA lawsuit being as though this site deliberately provides a category for cameras of “schools” showing underage children without consent. This is wrong and needs to be taken down.
- forgotpwd16 5y ago>showing underage children without consent But it doesn't right now. Maybe the people behind the site, who already removed the houses link for example, will stop stream when schools start. If they don't then maybe HN mods will remove it.
- 5ESS 5y agoThe very fact that they even included a “Houses” and “Schools” section in the first place shows that the site operators have maligned ethics. School is obviously out of session now at the time of this post but the site was in fact exposing underage children earlier in the day.
- duxup 5y agoHacking of American companies and government gets covered a lot on HN.
- 5ESS 5y agoYou mean stories about American government hacked that don’t link directly to the files. Infact I remember last year when the XP Source leaked I was the first to post it here and it was almost immediately taken down. So actually, you’re wrong. HN does take down hacked data from American companies all the time and I know this from first hand experience.
- duxup 5y agoI don't know what story you're talking about but pretty sure the 'leaked tank manuals' stories all linked to stories with the files.
- oonerspism 5y agoFYI: peoples of many, many countries of North and South America consider themselves to be "Americans", being from one of the "Americas". When referring to a particular country, for global clarity I recommend using that actual country's proper name - e.g. "the USA".
- kaishiro 5y agoIs this actually true? I haven't traveled through South America at all, so I'm genuinely curious. If I meet a presumed Chilean and ask "Where are you from?", you're suggesting they'll respond "I'm American."?
- oonerspism 5y agoA related article. https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/06/what-does-american-actually-mean/276999/ https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/06/what-do...
- kaishiro 5y agoSo, first off, I appreciate the link - it's a good article. But it seems to suggest that there is no firm right or wrong in it's usage, but rather the context of the usage is what's important. Would you not agree that the usage in this context makes it clear that 5ESS is referring to "if it was [United Statesian's] cameras being hacked"?
- oonerspism 5y agoContext is subjective, precision is universal. I (perhaps wrongly) don't think of HN as a USA-centric site based upon USA-centric discussion - I think of it as a global community - so my context expectations are set accordingly. But obviously, others may think differently.
- kaishiro 5y agoUnderstood, appreciate the discussion and the point of view. I've learned something from this!