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You would think that a motto like Ars Gratia Artis would automatically disqualify a company from being a culture fit for Amazon.
by Alex3917 5y ago
You would think that a motto like Ars Gratia Artis would automatically disqualify a company from being a culture fit for Amazon.
- bsedlm 5y agoah, it's not such a bad fit, just tweak it into: Profit for Profit's sake
- notacoward 5y ago"Lucrum pro lucri (causa)" in case anyone was wondering.
- lanstin 5y agoArt for profits sake?
- some_random 5y agoYou would think that Google wouldn't be Like That with "Don't be Evil" as their motto, yet
- 535188B17C93743 5y agoDidn't they explicitly (but quietly) get rid of it several years ago? Edit: I think this [1] is what I was thinking about. [1] https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393 https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-do...
- notacoward 5y agoBut what is evil, really? When financial success is equated with virtue, as is far too often the case nowadays (especially in the US), then "don't be evil" means "don't be poor" and they certainly try to abide by that.
- xiphias2 5y agoDefinitely not. When Google was small and growing like crazy the engineers had enough leverage that Eric Schmidt realized that giving them freedom and power to keep them was the best way to grow the company. As growth moved more into just showing more ads and making them more similar to search results, power moved away from engineers.
- notacoward 5y agoNot sure why you say "definitely not" here when it's not clear we're disagreeing. How does the purported power shift you mention even relate to a rationalization that Google decision makers could have used at any time to convince themselves that they're still living the motto? Are you suggesting that "don't be evil" was only for engineers, not management? I can kinda-sorta see how your comment makes sense in that context, but it's still a bit orthogonal.
- lanstin 5y agoIsn’t it a truism that exposure to reality, beauty and elegance as an engineer prejudices you towards good, while MBA types are trained in evil? (Tongue in cheek)
- xiphias2 5y agoI'm saying definately not for "don't be evil" means "don't be poor". Tim Ferriss asked Eric Schmidt about it when he interviewed Eric, and Eric said that one concrete example was adding location sharing in Google Maps. Engineers wanted a way for people to set up a fake location to hide their real location for their own privacy, because not giving basic privacy rights to people is evil. First Eric thought that it's just a feature with too much extra work, but later the lawyers at Google realized that it also makes the legal part of data handling and protecting data from governments much simpler, because it makes that location not personally identifiable information. So yes, it may be profitable for small companies not to be evil, but for engineers who said them over and over, it doesn't mean don't be poor, it has nothing to do with money for them.
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- asdffdsa 5y agoEh, they lost credibility once the became a big-time profit-seeking movie-making (apologies for my lack of vocabulary) studio
- pavlov 5y agoSo that would be 1924? MGM was founded by the owner of a movie theater chain (Loew's) to make blockbuster movies.
- trimbo 5y agoA friend who worked there about a decade before they went bankrupt once told me Bond was the only thing keeping that studio alive.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago>Bond was the only thing keeping that studio alive Tom and Jerry was also pretty awesome. Does nobody watch that anymore?
- ac29 5y agoTom and Jerry ended production in 1967.
- rg111 5y agoThe Pink Panther series of movies ("live action", not animated) is among the most hilarious creation I have ever consumed. I highly recommend them if you want to laugh hysterically. (Note: I watched them a long time ago, and there is wee chance that I am remembering them differently.) I am waiting for the Prime Video catalogue to include them!