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Yeah, it is sad and an unintended consequence of a global economy. My girlfriend has 17 acres in upstate NY with 300+ ash. They are all slowly dying, losing the

Yeah, it is sad and an unintended consequence of a global economy. My girlfriend has 17 acres in upstate NY with 300+ ash. They are all slowly dying, losing their bark and blowing down in storms. Most are standing dead and don't even have much value as timber.

evandev 5y ago
I live in southern Vermont and have a lot of dead ash trees. Interesting enough, while there is emerald ash borer 5 miles away from me, it hasn't made it to my property. I had a state forester who specializes in EAB come and take a look and found no evidence of it. Apparently around 2017 there was a drought that affected a lot of the ash trees near me and most have died from that. None of the trees had signs of flecking which is key and he took a look at the firewood and found no evidence. He said that if one ash tree has EAB, all ash trees around it will also be affected. And there are a few very healthy ash trees.
- SuoDuanDao 5y ago
  Maybe those genetics have an immunity? That's the case with beech trees where I live, they have a tough time but a few survived the plague that swept through them. I wonder how one could test if it's something special about the trees.
- nkurz 5y ago
  > I live in southern Vermont and have a lot of dead ash trees. I'm also in Southern Vermont (Readsboro) and have mostly healthy ash trees. Emerald ash borer is presumed to be in the area, but no observed evidence yet right where I am. The foresters we spoke to told us that since it takes several years for trees to show symptoms, we should probably assume that our trees are already infested. We do have some trees that seem to be suffering from another ash disease which is present here: https://www.vtinvasives.org/invasive/ash-yellows https://www.vtinvasives.org/invasive/ash-yellows. It's probably worth noting that there are effective treatments if you have individual trees that you want to save. I've been doing a preventative treatment on the trees near with house for the last couple year with Dinotefuran (Safari). It can be applied on the bark (basal trunk spray) in late spring, after the leaves start coming out. It costs about $10 per medium sized tree per year if you do it yourself. It won't save a tree that has already been too damaged, but is believed effective if applied before major signs appear.
hinkley 5y ago
The sad thing too is that in many forests it’s hemlock that grows over fallen trees, paving the way for apex trees to follow behind them, and the hemlock is also under threat by the hemlock woolly adelgid. With elm and chestnut also gone, our list of allies grows thin. I don’t know if tulip poplar is native to your area but that also used to be part of the apex canopy and we hardly even talk about them. Ridiculously massive trees. Normal trees don’t come up to the lowest branch on a mature tulip poplar.
Alex3917 5y ago
Try putting lime around them and maybe you'll get morels.

evandev 5y ago

I live in southern Vermont and have a lot of dead ash trees. Interesting enough, while there is emerald ash borer 5 miles away from me, it hasn't made it to my property. I had a state forester who specializes in EAB come and take a look and found no evidence of it. Apparently around 2017 there was a drought that affected a lot of the ash trees near me and most have died from that. None of the trees had signs of flecking which is key and he took a look at the firewood and found no evidence. He said that if one ash tree has EAB, all ash trees around it will also be affected. And there are a few very healthy ash trees.

SuoDuanDao 5y ago
Maybe those genetics have an immunity? That's the case with beech trees where I live, they have a tough time but a few survived the plague that swept through them. I wonder how one could test if it's something special about the trees.
nkurz 5y ago
> I live in southern Vermont and have a lot of dead ash trees. I'm also in Southern Vermont (Readsboro) and have mostly healthy ash trees. Emerald ash borer is presumed to be in the area, but no observed evidence yet right where I am. The foresters we spoke to told us that since it takes several years for trees to show symptoms, we should probably assume that our trees are already infested. We do have some trees that seem to be suffering from another ash disease which is present here: https://www.vtinvasives.org/invasive/ash-yellows https://www.vtinvasives.org/invasive/ash-yellows. It's probably worth noting that there are effective treatments if you have individual trees that you want to save. I've been doing a preventative treatment on the trees near with house for the last couple year with Dinotefuran (Safari). It can be applied on the bark (basal trunk spray) in late spring, after the leaves start coming out. It costs about $10 per medium sized tree per year if you do it yourself. It won't save a tree that has already been too damaged, but is believed effective if applied before major signs appear.

hinkley 5y ago

The sad thing too is that in many forests it’s hemlock that grows over fallen trees, paving the way for apex trees to follow behind them, and the hemlock is also under threat by the hemlock woolly adelgid. With elm and chestnut also gone, our list of allies grows thin. I don’t know if tulip poplar is native to your area but that also used to be part of the apex canopy and we hardly even talk about them. Ridiculously massive trees. Normal trees don’t come up to the lowest branch on a mature tulip poplar.

Alex3917 5y ago

Try putting lime around them and maybe you'll get morels.