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I hate this presidence things like these set. I would hate code being split into left/right, and that's kinda the presidence set here As much as I think the wa
by nigma1337 5y ago
I hate this presidence things like these set. I would hate code being split into left/right, and that's kinda the presidence set here
As much as I think the war is wrong, having it seep into other things which are "non-political", is incredibly annoying.
- toxik 5y agoNothing is non-political. You do not exist in a vacuum.
- glogla 5y agoYes. "I don't want politics in X" (software, video games, etc) mean "I support the status quo" which is by itself a political position - and often a privileged one.
- nigma1337 5y agoBut i dont support the status quo lol. I just dont want to have someones political opinion shoved down my throat wherever i go.
- aaomidi 5y agoExcept free software itself is political. There really needs to be a history class for developers.
- encryptluks2 5y agoI don't really think it is. I believe free software is natural. Saying free software is political is like saying freedom is political. How is being against oppression political? Wouldn't that just be considered natural, and the people saying it is a political stance be the ones oppressing trying to make it political?
- pcthrowaway 5y agoDefine freedom, and define oppression. OK, now get everyone to agree. Oops, you've just entered politics
- encryptluks2 5y agoDo you really need to define freedom? Mark Passio does a great job at explaining freedom and natural law. I'm not saying that people don't make it political, but I do believe there is just a natural state of existence and cooperation that doesn't involve made up systems. Once you want to start making rules that infringes on others natural rights is when things get political.
- nigma1337 5y agoI just wanna code without thinking about the stuff happening in the world. Political stuff has its spaces, why does it have to infest everything else
- cies 5y agoBecause sanctions. Trade is obvious, but sports, visas, communication and software are also used. I think even most trade sanction are bad, it leads to more escalation. "When trade stops war begins" it is said.
- toxik 5y agoIn this case, war begun and then trade was stopped.
- toxik 5y agoYou are quite literally saying "I want to exist in a vacuum", and that is just not reality. Let's use a thought experiment. You are the neighborhood's mechanic, and you do small jobs for everybody - bikes, cars, trailers. Now, your next door neighbor has been throwing dog shit on your lawn, started kicking down your mailbox in the morning, set fire to your hedge during the night. So you say, hey, asshole, I'm not fixing your bikes anymore. In fact, you want people to acknowledge what an asshole your neighbor is when you fix their bikes. But then, nigma1337 comes along, and says, "bikes don't have anything to do with your dispute, you should still fix his bikes, and I don't want to acknowledge anything!", and that's just absurd, man.
- nigma1337 5y agoThat is a very good thought experiment, but i think this situation is more like me, as a mechanic going "Hey toxik, if you want me to continue to fix your bike, sign here that i'm right in my dispute against my neighbor and he is bad", while I agree, i'd prefer not to be dragged into it/reminded of it everywhere I go.
- aaomidi 5y agoNo one is stopping you. If you're engaging with others, and you're using their shit, then you're participating in a thing that's much larger than yourself. Don't want that? Write your own stuff from scratch and don't think about what's happening in the world. You're currently demanding the world change to play to your whims. That's not how this works.
- seneca 5y agoFunny how the people who say this always seem to have the same political ideology, which they want to loudly push.
- toxik 5y agoYou don't know what my "ideology" is, and that is precisely because I didn't push any. A Ukranian developer don't want Russians to use his code, on account of the latter country invading the former.
- jen20 5y agoAnton’s project, Anton’s rules. Simple. You don’t get to choose what license gets applied to his thousands of hours of work just because you want to live in a vacuum, when the reality has his own family under siege by a foreign army. Furthermore, if you’re going to make grandiose statements about what may or may not become precedent, it would behoove you to learn the word you’re trying to use first.
- nigma1337 5y agoWell i mean, he doesn't get to claim its apache when its litterally not. Furthermore, its an internet comment, i'm not gonna double check my spelling