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OSM Ukraine: “Russian must volunteerly step down from all OSMF working groups”

4 points by app4soft 5y ago

app4soft 5y ago
OpenStreetMap Ukraine just tweeted: > All Russian residents as well as anyone who exhibits alliance towards the Russian Federation must volunteerly step down from all OSMF working groups. Otherwise, OSM Ukraine will treat them as those who are in the war against Ukraine.[0] [0] https://twitter.com/osm_ua/status/1504429267765141511 https://twitter.com/osm_ua/status/1504429267765141511
Iolaum 5y ago
That sounds a bit extreme. Alienating normal people doesn't sound like the way to go. Especially in a volunteer project like this.
- app4soft 5y ago
  There was long story on OSMF violence against Ukraine, where OSMF blocks OSM Ukraine's request to stop show Crimea (Russian-occupied territory of Ukraine) on OpenStreetMap as part of Russia territory since 2014. Also, at this moment OSM Ukraine requests Russian members volunteerly "take a break" - if there are "normal people" here, then they would follow this request. Those "normal Russian", who at the time has no any rights to protest in own country against Russia's govt initiated war & invasion of Ukraine, should follow OSM Ukraine's proposed action — we, Ukrainian, then may recognize those Russian "normal". Otherwise, how should we recognize who is "normal" & and who is not? JFTR, I'm Ukrainian living in Ukraine. Here is my statement for HN:[0] + Verified Ways to Help Ukraine - https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/02/27/verified-ways-to-help-the-ukrainian-army/ https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/02/27/verified-ways-to-help... + My Patreon - https://patreon.com/app4soft https://patreon.com/app4soft N.B. For example, I already highlighted bad "good guy" role playing by «Libre Art» (ex-«Libre Graphics World») blog author[1], who being Russian living in Russia & trying to play friendly to Ukrainian on Twitter, on own country's Linux user group («Linux.Org.Ru») forum really joked a lot about Ukraine & Crimea after it was occupied by Russian.[2,3] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30395897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30395897 [1] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1504424886126755840 https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1504424886126755840 [2] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1500394792290766849 https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1500394792290766849 [3] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1498768728921681921 https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1498768728921681921

4 points by app4soft 5y ago

OpenStreetMap Ukraine just tweeted: > All Russian residents as well as anyone who exhibits alliance towards the Russian Federation must volunteerly step down from all OSMF working groups. Otherwise, OSM Ukraine will treat them as those who are in the war against Ukraine.[0] [0] https://twitter.com/osm_ua/status/1504429267765141511 https://twitter.com/osm_ua/status/1504429267765141511

Iolaum 5y ago

That sounds a bit extreme. Alienating normal people doesn't sound like the way to go. Especially in a volunteer project like this.

app4soft 5y ago
There was long story on OSMF violence against Ukraine, where OSMF blocks OSM Ukraine's request to stop show Crimea (Russian-occupied territory of Ukraine) on OpenStreetMap as part of Russia territory since 2014. Also, at this moment OSM Ukraine requests Russian members volunteerly "take a break" - if there are "normal people" here, then they would follow this request. Those "normal Russian", who at the time has no any rights to protest in own country against Russia's govt initiated war & invasion of Ukraine, should follow OSM Ukraine's proposed action — we, Ukrainian, then may recognize those Russian "normal". Otherwise, how should we recognize who is "normal" & and who is not? JFTR, I'm Ukrainian living in Ukraine. Here is my statement for HN:[0] + Verified Ways to Help Ukraine - https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/02/27/verified-ways-to-help-the-ukrainian-army/ https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/02/27/verified-ways-to-help... + My Patreon - https://patreon.com/app4soft https://patreon.com/app4soft N.B. For example, I already highlighted bad "good guy" role playing by «Libre Art» (ex-«Libre Graphics World») blog author[1], who being Russian living in Russia & trying to play friendly to Ukrainian on Twitter, on own country's Linux user group («Linux.Org.Ru») forum really joked a lot about Ukraine & Crimea after it was occupied by Russian.[2,3] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30395897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30395897 [1] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1504424886126755840 https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1504424886126755840 [2] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1500394792290766849 https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1500394792290766849 [3] https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1498768728921681921 https://twitter.com/app4soft/status/1498768728921681921