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I disagree. Kingkiller is bog-standard fantasy. I read the first one because it was given to me, and having done so I bear no ill will to Rothfuss because I jus

I disagree. Kingkiller is bog-standard fantasy. I read the first one because it was given to me, and having done so I bear no ill will to Rothfuss because I just don't care what happens. Generally speaking, though, I don't start trilogies or other serieses unless they're COMPLETE. Some SF/F fans go apoplectic when I say this ("You have to buy the early books to ensure there's demand!"), my counter is that I have no interest in fractional stories.

ModernMech 5y ago
Indeed, I was burned with both Serenity and Dollhouse. From now on I will wait until it’s syndicated thanks.
- ubermonkey 5y ago
  TV <> books, though.
falcolas 5y ago
> bog standard high fantasy Complete with the OP MC trope. > I don't start trilogies or other serieses unless they're COMPLETE. That's my new rule too. Been burned too many times by favorite authors just dropping series. It gets old reeeally fast.
- SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
  I would like to push against this because it results in some very terrible market behavior. You are effectively selecting for less trilogies released because of this, or only the people who publish trilogies are people with enough fan base (aka no debuts). What happens is actually the publisher drops the author! Rarely the author loses interest, more often the publisher sees the lack of sales and drops the author entirely, killing the series.
  - falcolas 5y ago
    I'd argue that the stories should be released as one book then, not three. There's often no need to release a single story as a trilogy, other than to make money. As it stands, there's too many other good authors out there who do either follow through with their promises or release great stand-alone books to waste money and time on incomplete stories.
    - SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
      I’m sure the authors would also love to release their work together but, again, this is a gate on the publishers side. The publisher is the one that refuses to invest in authors, resulting in situations where authors who could write amazing trilogies and multi book series are gated or dropped too early before their careers can really take off. Writing a stand-alone is different skill than writing a series.
      - falcolas 5y ago
        Authors are, in this day and age, no longer bound to their publishers. Self publishing is both easy and widely practiced. Perhaps not ironically, my current favorite authors (Forthright, Travis Baldree, Honor Raconteur) do not go through traditional publishers. They also don't drop series in the middle of the story because of market forces.
        SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
        > Self publishing is both easy Self publishing is not at all easy. It’s a completely different thing with very different necessary skills to succeed. An author may not have the skills nor time necessary to successfully self publish. (Off the top of my head- just keeping track of sales/sale trends, reaching out to booksellers, organizing your own marketing campaign, editor, cover art, rights management, etc.)
        falcolas 5y ago
- unethical_ban 5y ago
  overpowered main character* Meaning Kvothe (not a spoiler) kind of has all his stats maxed out except wisdom, which allows the plot to move forward. I did thoroughly enjoy the world that was built in the first book, but couldn't stand his stupidity in the second, and stopped reading. It didn't help that I knew the trilogy wasn't finished.

ModernMech 5y ago

Indeed, I was burned with both Serenity and Dollhouse. From now on I will wait until it’s syndicated thanks.

ubermonkey 5y ago
TV <> books, though.

falcolas 5y ago

> bog standard high fantasy Complete with the OP MC trope. > I don't start trilogies or other serieses unless they're COMPLETE. That's my new rule too. Been burned too many times by favorite authors just dropping series. It gets old reeeally fast.

SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
I would like to push against this because it results in some very terrible market behavior. You are effectively selecting for less trilogies released because of this, or only the people who publish trilogies are people with enough fan base (aka no debuts). What happens is actually the publisher drops the author! Rarely the author loses interest, more often the publisher sees the lack of sales and drops the author entirely, killing the series.
- falcolas 5y ago
  I'd argue that the stories should be released as one book then, not three. There's often no need to release a single story as a trilogy, other than to make money. As it stands, there's too many other good authors out there who do either follow through with their promises or release great stand-alone books to waste money and time on incomplete stories.
  - SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
    I’m sure the authors would also love to release their work together but, again, this is a gate on the publishers side. The publisher is the one that refuses to invest in authors, resulting in situations where authors who could write amazing trilogies and multi book series are gated or dropped too early before their careers can really take off. Writing a stand-alone is different skill than writing a series.
    - falcolas 5y ago
      Authors are, in this day and age, no longer bound to their publishers. Self publishing is both easy and widely practiced. Perhaps not ironically, my current favorite authors (Forthright, Travis Baldree, Honor Raconteur) do not go through traditional publishers. They also don't drop series in the middle of the story because of market forces.
      - SamoyedFurFluff 5y ago
        > Self publishing is both easy Self publishing is not at all easy. It’s a completely different thing with very different necessary skills to succeed. An author may not have the skills nor time necessary to successfully self publish. (Off the top of my head- just keeping track of sales/sale trends, reaching out to booksellers, organizing your own marketing campaign, editor, cover art, rights management, etc.)
        falcolas 5y ago
unethical_ban 5y ago
overpowered main character* Meaning Kvothe (not a spoiler) kind of has all his stats maxed out except wisdom, which allows the plot to move forward. I did thoroughly enjoy the world that was built in the first book, but couldn't stand his stupidity in the second, and stopped reading. It didn't help that I knew the trilogy wasn't finished.