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> Heck, save the $1 and make two 1.5lb loaves of great bread Assuming you have the time and the oven, neither of which are guaranteed but both seem to be unive

by derleth 15y ago

> Heck, save the $1 and make two 1.5lb loaves of great bread Assuming you have the time and the oven, neither of which are guaranteed but both seem to be universally assumed. (Also assumes you're urban poor and not rural poor. Urban poor has access to Wal-Mart and Albertson's. Rural poor has access to a gas station grocery and hunting/fishing if they're rich enough to afford the accoutrements and the time.)

hnal943 15y ago
If you're rural poor and it's better to be urban poor, guess what? Time to move to the city!
ctdonath 15y ago
Time: there are hours of wiggle room in the recipe. You'll find time; I do. Actual active contact time is about 10 minutes. Equipment cost: I checked yesterday and found suitable crockery for $5 at Goodwill. Build a fire in the back yard around the pot, drop in dough, take out 45 minutes later. I'll be sure to buy, try, and blog per your concerns.
ctdonath 15y ago
"Rural poor has access to a gas station grocery and hunting/fishing if they're rich enough to afford the accoutrements and the time." A week ago I watched the movie "Winter's Bone", which depicted grinding rural poverty. As the protagonist (teen girl) split logs for heat, cooked inexpensive meals, and hunted squirrels, I realized I'd grown up very near the same way - and never considered myself "poor", despite our huge garden, wood stoves, etc. You say "rich enough" for hunting? Hunting license is $9 here in GA. Gun-show rifle was $30. One 7.62x54R round is $0.25. For under $50 and a weekend morning/evening, you can get several hundred dollars worth of meat. Fishing is similarly cheap if you're so inclined. Just because people spend thousands on a sport doesn't mean you have to for sustenance. As for other sustenance needs: 50 pound sacks of bread flour are $16 at Costco, 100 packets of food garden seeds are $10 at Dollar Store, chicks are cheap at the local farm supply store, and pots/pans for cooking over a fire are a few dollars at Goodwill. I've lived very close to that lifestyle. Living on a near-zero income is not unreasonable...quaint even.

by derleth 15y ago

hnal943 15y ago

If you're rural poor and it's better to be urban poor, guess what? Time to move to the city!

ctdonath 15y ago

Time: there are hours of wiggle room in the recipe. You'll find time; I do. Actual active contact time is about 10 minutes. Equipment cost: I checked yesterday and found suitable crockery for $5 at Goodwill. Build a fire in the back yard around the pot, drop in dough, take out 45 minutes later. I'll be sure to buy, try, and blog per your concerns.

ctdonath 15y ago

"Rural poor has access to a gas station grocery and hunting/fishing if they're rich enough to afford the accoutrements and the time." A week ago I watched the movie "Winter's Bone", which depicted grinding rural poverty. As the protagonist (teen girl) split logs for heat, cooked inexpensive meals, and hunted squirrels, I realized I'd grown up very near the same way - and never considered myself "poor", despite our huge garden, wood stoves, etc. You say "rich enough" for hunting? Hunting license is $9 here in GA. Gun-show rifle was $30. One 7.62x54R round is $0.25. For under $50 and a weekend morning/evening, you can get several hundred dollars worth of meat. Fishing is similarly cheap if you're so inclined. Just because people spend thousands on a sport doesn't mean you have to for sustenance. As for other sustenance needs: 50 pound sacks of bread flour are $16 at Costco, 100 packets of food garden seeds are $10 at Dollar Store, chicks are cheap at the local farm supply store, and pots/pans for cooking over a fire are a few dollars at Goodwill. I've lived very close to that lifestyle. Living on a near-zero income is not unreasonable...quaint even.