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I know how to explain them because they were dreams, but I can lucid dream on command (for the past 30 years; took 1 year of training) and I had many very reali

I know how to explain them because they were dreams, but I can lucid dream on command (for the past 30 years; took 1 year of training) and I had many very realistic experiences other people would describe as religious apparitions or paranormal activity. Like chatting with my future wife, chatting with my dead grandfather, seeing christ, seeing satan, Grudge like Japanese girls under my bed etc.

watercooler_guy 5y ago
> Grudge like Japanese girls under my bed etc. That’s a hell of an experience to mention casually! Did you wish for these terrifying encounters and they happened? Or the control over your dreams isn’t that fine grained?
- tluyben2 5y ago
  Not that fine grained, but I enjoy nightmares very much. Best horror movies you actually feel you are part of. Usually they are about zombies or robots (galatica cylons from the old show to be precise); those are excellent and I am immortal there so a bullet or laser hits me then I can just go on and I can fly when I want too (in actual life I have terrible fear of heights; I cannot stand games like The Climb in VR for more than seconds).
poisonarena 5y ago
how did you train to have lucid dreams? As soon as I realize I am dreaming I immediately leave my dream
- tluyben2 5y ago
  I never believed in anything religious or paranormal so I figured that people who have outer body experiences are, in fact, lucid dreaming. There are many books to learn OBE; I got one from the library and trained from it; one year, every night when I was 19. And that was it. I think the book was from a guy called Monroe and was, outside the drivel about OBE, very practical with lessons and exercises to practice OBE.
  - jimsmart 5y ago
    Most likely: Journeys Out Of The Body, and/or Far Journeys, both by Robert Monroe. I recall borrowing both from the library and reading them when I was in my late teens or early twenties, found them utterly fascinating. The Monroe Institute also had (or developed?) an audio technique to help entrain the brain, called Hemi-Sync - with a set of cassettes for OBE / lucid dream training, and various other cassettes to train other brain skills. In part they used a tech called 'Binaural Beats' (along with guided meditation), which is where one frequency, e.g. 440hz is played into one ear, and e.g. 450hz is played into the other, which makes one hear/percieve an internal oscillation of e.g. 10hz (the difference between them). The tapes used different frequencies to target different states, at different stages of the meditation, believing them to enhance different types of brain waves (e.g. 10hz is in the range for alpha waves), which was intended to teach the student how to invoke these states themselves at will. I still have some of his original cassettes, although nowadays they can be bought on CD IIRC (or perhaps snagged in mp3 format, if one looks around torrent sites). But I believe there is also an app nowadays. Interesting topic - and Monroe was an interesting guy. FWIW: back then, I believed in all manner of strange things, including OBE, but nowadays I'm mostly a rational skeptic. Monroe's books were very interesting to me back then, because they were quite fantastical, and claimed to have been written over many years of experiences.
    - tluyben2 5y ago
      Not sure if that was is but it was definitely that writer. It has been 30 years and I have no clue how the name monroe popped into my head?! I did have a photographic memory back then (gone now and my short term memory is pretty bad now) so maybe it stored really insignificant stuff; I read 2-3 books per day back then but yeah I spent 1 year practicing from this so it stuck. Thanks for the heads up; I skipped all the OBE stuff back then and just went straight to practice ; I remember it was very effective and a worthwhile skill. I also remember that sometimes I slept 16 hours a day because I didn’t want to stop dreaming. Got up to eat and go to the gym to tire me out more to sleep more.

watercooler_guy 5y ago

> Grudge like Japanese girls under my bed etc. That’s a hell of an experience to mention casually! Did you wish for these terrifying encounters and they happened? Or the control over your dreams isn’t that fine grained?

tluyben2 5y ago
Not that fine grained, but I enjoy nightmares very much. Best horror movies you actually feel you are part of. Usually they are about zombies or robots (galatica cylons from the old show to be precise); those are excellent and I am immortal there so a bullet or laser hits me then I can just go on and I can fly when I want too (in actual life I have terrible fear of heights; I cannot stand games like The Climb in VR for more than seconds).

poisonarena 5y ago

how did you train to have lucid dreams? As soon as I realize I am dreaming I immediately leave my dream

tluyben2 5y ago
I never believed in anything religious or paranormal so I figured that people who have outer body experiences are, in fact, lucid dreaming. There are many books to learn OBE; I got one from the library and trained from it; one year, every night when I was 19. And that was it. I think the book was from a guy called Monroe and was, outside the drivel about OBE, very practical with lessons and exercises to practice OBE.
- jimsmart 5y ago
  Most likely: Journeys Out Of The Body, and/or Far Journeys, both by Robert Monroe. I recall borrowing both from the library and reading them when I was in my late teens or early twenties, found them utterly fascinating. The Monroe Institute also had (or developed?) an audio technique to help entrain the brain, called Hemi-Sync - with a set of cassettes for OBE / lucid dream training, and various other cassettes to train other brain skills. In part they used a tech called 'Binaural Beats' (along with guided meditation), which is where one frequency, e.g. 440hz is played into one ear, and e.g. 450hz is played into the other, which makes one hear/percieve an internal oscillation of e.g. 10hz (the difference between them). The tapes used different frequencies to target different states, at different stages of the meditation, believing them to enhance different types of brain waves (e.g. 10hz is in the range for alpha waves), which was intended to teach the student how to invoke these states themselves at will. I still have some of his original cassettes, although nowadays they can be bought on CD IIRC (or perhaps snagged in mp3 format, if one looks around torrent sites). But I believe there is also an app nowadays. Interesting topic - and Monroe was an interesting guy. FWIW: back then, I believed in all manner of strange things, including OBE, but nowadays I'm mostly a rational skeptic. Monroe's books were very interesting to me back then, because they were quite fantastical, and claimed to have been written over many years of experiences.
  - tluyben2 5y ago
    Not sure if that was is but it was definitely that writer. It has been 30 years and I have no clue how the name monroe popped into my head?! I did have a photographic memory back then (gone now and my short term memory is pretty bad now) so maybe it stored really insignificant stuff; I read 2-3 books per day back then but yeah I spent 1 year practicing from this so it stuck. Thanks for the heads up; I skipped all the OBE stuff back then and just went straight to practice ; I remember it was very effective and a worthwhile skill. I also remember that sometimes I slept 16 hours a day because I didn’t want to stop dreaming. Got up to eat and go to the gym to tire me out more to sleep more.