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Huh. I only watched the show and I felt it was much more guys being idiots, and women tending to be wiser if gender lines must be drawn. I thought the show, de

Huh. I only watched the show and I felt it was much more guys being idiots, and women tending to be wiser if gender lines must be drawn. I thought the show, despite very poor quality writing for the final seasons, managed its plot lines pretty well. It didn’t bring in all the threads but it finished most of the ones that started. But the tone of things changed quite a bit following the red wedding. The red wedding, and the execution of Ned, were two fairly surprising events. They greatly shifted the arc of the story, and added a lot of drama to the world. After this event I felt everyone started wearing their plot armor heavily. Main characters went off on their adventures and couldn’t plausibly die without making a good deal of the story otherwise pointless to have pre existed. I didn’t feel anyone’s death mattered after those two events, which frankly is also fine. That’s a cool, novel story structure in itself.

tsimionescu 5y ago
Well, of the main female characters, one ends up an isolationist, another is a psychotic assassin who fed a lord his own children, two literally go mad and kill thousands, and only one has any positive development, the most mannish of them. > It didn’t bring in all the threads but it finished most of the ones that started. It finished them in abrupt ways that made all of the build-up irrelevant, and proved all of the thematic elements simple misreadings. Particularly the White Walkers were turned from a world-ending problem that could only be confronted using humanity's entire attention, from which political squabbles were a silly distraction, into a simple horde of zombies that could easily be killed by stabbing their leader with a good weapon, and who couldn't even destroy half of a band of light cavalry facing them in an open field. Also, Daenerys's complex character build-up, with elements of genuine desire to create a new Era of prosperity, but self-righteous belief in her own right to be at the head of that new Era, was made irrelevant as she became a raving genocidal maniac when her father's bad blood got to her seeing the old seat of her family's power. This is all glossing over all of the nonsensical decisions made by characters, the unexamined hypocrisy (to name the most egregious one, Daenerys executing a trusted advisor trying to poison her is presented as abhorrent, while Jon hanging the conspirators who killed him is presented as righteous, even if one of them was a 10 year old child).
- oneoff786 5y ago
  I agree. The white walkers just being beaten felt like a bad conclusion to that arc. Dragon girl’s felt like it was “good” but the execution of the show’s build up was terrible. Her going psycho felt like it was… intended to be foreshadowed even though it really wasn’t?

tsimionescu 5y ago

Well, of the main female characters, one ends up an isolationist, another is a psychotic assassin who fed a lord his own children, two literally go mad and kill thousands, and only one has any positive development, the most mannish of them. > It didn’t bring in all the threads but it finished most of the ones that started. It finished them in abrupt ways that made all of the build-up irrelevant, and proved all of the thematic elements simple misreadings. Particularly the White Walkers were turned from a world-ending problem that could only be confronted using humanity's entire attention, from which political squabbles were a silly distraction, into a simple horde of zombies that could easily be killed by stabbing their leader with a good weapon, and who couldn't even destroy half of a band of light cavalry facing them in an open field. Also, Daenerys's complex character build-up, with elements of genuine desire to create a new Era of prosperity, but self-righteous belief in her own right to be at the head of that new Era, was made irrelevant as she became a raving genocidal maniac when her father's bad blood got to her seeing the old seat of her family's power. This is all glossing over all of the nonsensical decisions made by characters, the unexamined hypocrisy (to name the most egregious one, Daenerys executing a trusted advisor trying to poison her is presented as abhorrent, while Jon hanging the conspirators who killed him is presented as righteous, even if one of them was a 10 year old child).

oneoff786 5y ago
I agree. The white walkers just being beaten felt like a bad conclusion to that arc. Dragon girl’s felt like it was “good” but the execution of the show’s build up was terrible. Her going psycho felt like it was… intended to be foreshadowed even though it really wasn’t?