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>> You buy premium healthcare but still need to pay the doctor? Yes. That's the short answer. The longer answer is that there are plans without co-pays, etc.,
by runako 15y ago
>> You buy premium healthcare but still need to pay the doctor?
Yes. That's the short answer.
The longer answer is that there are plans without co-pays, etc., but that they are to the best of my knowledge not available to purchase by individuals or far too expensive for our hypothetical $9/hr worker (think more like $1000/mo).
>> token co-pay
In the context of a $9/hr job, "token" co-pays probably shouldn't be called "token," when they can easily run over $40 for a single visit. I certainly don't consider 4+ hours of my compensation to be a token amount.
>> You can get fired for talking to a union guy?
The short answer is yes, you can be fired for talking to a union guy. As in your employer will not be stopped from firing you on the spot, and it's then your turn to try to get reinstated/compensated through legal channels. You're right that legally you can't be fired for organizing. But in the calculus of business and the working poor, it's actually fairly common for low-wage employees to be fired for attempts at organizing. The employer wagers (usually correctly) that the person who just lost his $9/hr job today will have more immediate priorities than finding an attorney he can't pay to take a case he'll probably lose due to being able to only secure the services of one lawyer and not a team of the best money can buy.
- CWuestefeld 15y agoAs in your employer will not be stopped from firing you on the spot Are you suggesting that the French have found some way of physically preventing this improper action from ever occurring? I'd have to guess that the French are just as vulnerable to such misbehavior.
- runako 15y agoI don't see such a suggestion in my post. I'm not knowledgeable about the French labor system, so I won't rebut your guess with speculation of my own. I was simply pointing out that labor law isn't always as useful for day-to-day offenses as the well-off often assume.
- scarmig 15y agoThe question is of enforcement and incentives. Ask people who are involved in this issue, one way or another. Employer, worker, or organizer in France versus the USA. No matter their ideology, they will agree that management has far more freedom of action and employees have far less protections in the USA.
- Iv 15y agoI am not sure what you are implying and feel I am missing something but no, in France you cannot fire an employee without a professional fault from the employee's part. And "professional faults" are fairly well defined, and being part of a union is explicitly not one of them.