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> I guess every single person here releases every project completely out of the goodness of their own hearts without any analytics or ads or any aspirations to

> I guess every single person here releases every project completely out of the goodness of their own hearts without any analytics or ads or any aspirations to monetize it? Barring work, where I don't really have a say, my own projects have at times included usage metrics, it's always been easy enough to switch them off, and the goal has purely been a "how is this used" rather than "give me data I can sell for a dollar to GloboAdTech(tm)". Nothing gets to stay as just itself. It has to bend and change to work within capitalism, to generate wealth for whoever owns it.. I'm happy for Wardle, it was a nice payday for him, and shifts the ire for any percieved "issues" away from an individual. But I can also mourn the loss of a "pure" thing to the maws of profit-driven ventures. Maybe it isn't bad yet, but you'll forgive us, for having seen this stageplay numerous times before, and instinctively humming the next song where things get bad.

andai 5y ago
>Nothing gets to stay as just itself. It has to bend and change to work within capitalism, to generate wealth for whoever owns it.. No, it doesn't. There's obviously a financial incentive to do these things, sometimes a very strong one, but it always remains a choice.
jeromegv 5y ago
Barring work? So basically you do the same but hide under the cover it’s your work? The same work you chose and where you could decide to quit if it was really against your principles? You do have a say. You have the ability to walk away. It’s also work for him.
- tehbeard 5y ago
  Never seen someone on such a high horse they're suffering hypoxia. Not all of us can work on eco-collective shade-grown organic carbon-neutral farms for orphans and kittens, such as yourself. And, to clarify, the most we do with analytics in work, is usally plumbing in Google Analytics (satan, the devil, belezbuub yadda yadda) and wiring up the metrics/actions for that site/apps particular flows to give data on who comes from where for marketting contracts, and how effective certain areas are (are people dropping out during checkout? Do people struggle with using x feature? or do they just never open it?)
jxf 5y ago
> Nothing gets to stay as just itself. It has to bend and change to work within capitalism, to generate wealth for whoever owns it.. This is not an inevitable conclusion. I can cook brunch for my friends without requiring it to be a capital transaction in the marketplace or without the eventual goal of opening up a pancake store.

andai 5y ago

>Nothing gets to stay as just itself. It has to bend and change to work within capitalism, to generate wealth for whoever owns it.. No, it doesn't. There's obviously a financial incentive to do these things, sometimes a very strong one, but it always remains a choice.

jeromegv 5y ago

Barring work? So basically you do the same but hide under the cover it’s your work? The same work you chose and where you could decide to quit if it was really against your principles? You do have a say. You have the ability to walk away. It’s also work for him.

tehbeard 5y ago
Never seen someone on such a high horse they're suffering hypoxia. Not all of us can work on eco-collective shade-grown organic carbon-neutral farms for orphans and kittens, such as yourself. And, to clarify, the most we do with analytics in work, is usally plumbing in Google Analytics (satan, the devil, belezbuub yadda yadda) and wiring up the metrics/actions for that site/apps particular flows to give data on who comes from where for marketting contracts, and how effective certain areas are (are people dropping out during checkout? Do people struggle with using x feature? or do they just never open it?)

jxf 5y ago

> Nothing gets to stay as just itself. It has to bend and change to work within capitalism, to generate wealth for whoever owns it.. This is not an inevitable conclusion. I can cook brunch for my friends without requiring it to be a capital transaction in the marketplace or without the eventual goal of opening up a pancake store.