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I don't understand your point. If it's no longer an emergency, why require an emergency landing?
by aqme28 5y ago
I don't understand your point. If it's no longer an emergency, why require an emergency landing?
- refurb 5y agoWhen you just did surgery with a knife and fork seems like an urgent enough situation to land?
- mcv 5y agoMaybe not if the surgery was successful. As long as the condition is stable, it might not matter where they land. Might as well land close to wherever she needs to be, instead of in a completely different country.
- aaaaaaaaata 5y agoLiability is a bitch, and ruins society.
- refurb 5y agoHow is surgery “successful” when they used a coat hanger? Can you imagine the infection risk? And sure, fly another 1-2 hr to get to the final destination, but they flew 8+ hours. It kinda makes no sense.
- whoisburbansky 5y agoThey mention in passing that cognac was used to disinfect things. Not foolproof, but not exactly a sepsis inducing nightmare either.
- refurb 5y agoCognac is usually what? 30-40% alcohol? It needs to be 70%. https://www.cdc.gov/infectioncontrol/guidelines/disinfection/disinfection-methods/chemical.html https://www.cdc.gov/infectioncontrol/guidelines/disinfection...
- cjrp 5y agoThe one upside from COVID; no flight will be short of hand gel to sanitise with! Actually, is hand gel even good for that?
- ls612 5y agoIt's literally designed to kill bacteria. Funnily enough it does next to nothing against respiratory pathogens like covid which spread through the air not through surfaces.
- mcv 5y agoOne of the first things reported about the virus was that it was held together by a membrane of fatty molecules that would easily dissolve with soap. Soap literally kills the virus. So of course everybody decides to wash their hands with alcohol-based sanitiser instead. I've never quite understood that. But there has been a lot I don't understand these past few years.
- pmyteh 5y agoThose guidelines recommend 60-95% ABV (and note that effectiveness drops off sharply below 50%) but also report that at least some pathogens are killed in seconds with exposure to 40% ethanol. If all you have to disinfect your ad hoc instruments is brandy, then use it: way better than nothing.
- toyg 5y ago> Can you imagine the infection risk? Infection is not an automatic outcome. My grandma was an obstetric nurse, she witnessed surgeons in 1950s Southern Italy performing operations with rusty knives; and most patients would still be ok. Sometimes we forget that the human race survived for thousands of years without the niceties of modern medicine. It's good to minimise risk, but in the end risk does not mean certainty of bad outcomes.
- aqme28 5y agoI would define a surgery's success by the success of the outcome, not by the tools that go into it. How would you define a "successful" surgery? An in-flight surgery that stabilizes the patient indefinitely is more successful IMO than one with all the best tooling that gets the patient killed.
- matheusmoreira 5y agoNot indefinitely. The point of all emergency medical treatment is to stabilize the patient before they get to a proper hospital.
- aqme28 5y agoIf there are two doctors there saying that the situation is not urgent, then who am I to disagree with them?
- matheusmoreira 5y agoThe patient was stabilized but the risk of complications still exist. In such an event, it's always better to be in fully equipped and staffed hospital. The only reason not to land the plane is if it is literally impossible to do so.