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I'm sorry, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Russians have been protesting since 2011, and had protests bigger than that that only res

by asats 5y ago

I'm sorry, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Russians have been protesting since 2011, and had protests bigger than that that only resulted in all of the opposition leaders getting jailed/murdered/exiled and thousands of people having criminal cases open against them. Tons of people that protested have left the country due to safety concerns. Belorussians just had a giant wave of protests, with up to a million people (10% of the entire populations) taking up to the streets, and Lukashenko is still in power, but an unknown number of people have been arrested/diapered/tortured https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Belarusian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Belarusian_p... Saying 20,000 people should go get murdered is also simply evil, no matter what your supposed intentions are.

jddil 5y ago
I never said 20,000 people should die, please don't put words in other peoples mouths. It's against HN rules. I'm saying if the Russian people showed that they disliked Putin in large enough numbers this would end. (either with him ousted, or him having to kill too many people to hide). Also you are making a FANTASTIC argument for why American/EU imperialism is about to come back in a bad way. Apparently once a dictator takes over there is no other choices but to just let him do whatever they want, the country is lost and must be "saved" from itself since it's populace can no longer resist.
- asats 5y ago
  I'm not saying the country can't change from within, I'm saying two things, one is that you can't change it by attacking random people within it, two is that you have no right to tell people to go face death. Changing the country takes time and organization, you have to cut through propaganda with the real information, change public opinion, and then organize action. So supporting the opposition and independent journalist, human rights groups that help arrested protesters on one hand, and sanctioning the government and the oligarch on the other might actually do something. Deleting files of some random russians and telling them to go get murdered will not.

by asats 5y ago

jddil 5y ago

I never said 20,000 people should die, please don't put words in other peoples mouths. It's against HN rules. I'm saying if the Russian people showed that they disliked Putin in large enough numbers this would end. (either with him ousted, or him having to kill too many people to hide). Also you are making a FANTASTIC argument for why American/EU imperialism is about to come back in a bad way. Apparently once a dictator takes over there is no other choices but to just let him do whatever they want, the country is lost and must be "saved" from itself since it's populace can no longer resist.

asats 5y ago
I'm not saying the country can't change from within, I'm saying two things, one is that you can't change it by attacking random people within it, two is that you have no right to tell people to go face death. Changing the country takes time and organization, you have to cut through propaganda with the real information, change public opinion, and then organize action. So supporting the opposition and independent journalist, human rights groups that help arrested protesters on one hand, and sanctioning the government and the oligarch on the other might actually do something. Deleting files of some random russians and telling them to go get murdered will not.