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I will pitch in here just after reading the title. I have been doing this for years, when corona started I stopped wearing shoes and cutting my hair and the tre

I will pitch in here just after reading the title. I have been doing this for years, when corona started I stopped wearing shoes and cutting my hair and the treatment I've gotten is definitely different. I appeal to a very different crowd and get dismissed and shunned by a significant majority. The day before yesterday I got arrested on a train for absolutely nothing (they even refused to tell me what I was being arrested for) and no one stood up for me. Someone told me once that by European law I am allowed to keep my identification documents in a safe place when I am not in my home country, so only citizens of country are obligated to produce identification upon request. Therefore I refused to identify myself to the police and will always do so since there are people who cannot get out of trouble by waving a magic card. I could however not avoid the magic card after they handcuffed me threw me in a car and hit me a couple of times. At the police station the levelheaded old guy basically told me that I could go to jail or identify myself so I showed him my university IDs and Icelandic drivers licenses and suddenly I am free to go with apologies. If I was from Brazil I'd be in jail now, however I am not from Brazil so I can now sue these dudes and make sure they are scared to do stuff like this to people. When we opt out of the bad treatment with our IDs then we are giving up on human rights.

ct0 5y ago
You are a nonviolent resistor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance
- gerdesj 5y ago
  A resistor is a stripy electronic component. A resister is an entity that resists - probably a person. Mr Google doesn't seem to recognise the difference between resistor and resister, judging by the grey wiggly underline in Chrome. That's quite awful, especially now.
mhitza 5y ago
> Someone told me once that by European law I am allowed to keep my identification documents in a safe place when I am not in my home country, so only citizens of country are obligated to produce identification upon request. Never heard of anything like that https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-c... > it is still always highly recommended to take a passport or ID card with you, so you can prove your identity if needed (if stopped by police, boarding a plane, etc.).
totetsu 5y ago
> I will pitch in here just after reading the title, I have been doing this for years. That's my Hacker News story in a sentence also.
ornornor 5y ago
It’s a fact that people are biased to other people based on first impressions/looks/skin color. Try as hard as we might, I unfortunately think it’s human nature. Police is very strongly biased the world over, even if it’s not PC to admit it. That said, I’m fairly certain that you’re allowed to decline showing your ID if you’re being stopped for no reason by police, but they can then take you to the station for identification you or let you go. And it depends on the country. In France I remember it’s very common for the police to “randomly” stop a certain kind of people and ask for ID on the spot. The picking of the “random” people wasn’t legal because as you might have guessed they were not so random, but police was allowed to card and anyone had to comply while on French territory.
- vinay427 5y ago
  > Police is very strongly biased the world over, even if it’s not PC to admit it. Do you mean that the PC view is that 1. the police are not strongly biased (which doesn’t fit the view of political correctness at least in the countries where I’ve lived) or that 2. the police are only strongly biased in certain countries but not the world over? Or something else?
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    While the Right has weaponized “political correctness” as an attack on the Left specifically, it has also been used more broadly in reference to consistency with the dominant political orthodoxy in any context.

ct0 5y ago

You are a nonviolent resistor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance

gerdesj 5y ago
A resistor is a stripy electronic component. A resister is an entity that resists - probably a person. Mr Google doesn't seem to recognise the difference between resistor and resister, judging by the grey wiggly underline in Chrome. That's quite awful, especially now.

mhitza 5y ago

> Someone told me once that by European law I am allowed to keep my identification documents in a safe place when I am not in my home country, so only citizens of country are obligated to produce identification upon request. Never heard of anything like that https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-c... > it is still always highly recommended to take a passport or ID card with you, so you can prove your identity if needed (if stopped by police, boarding a plane, etc.).

totetsu 5y ago

> I will pitch in here just after reading the title, I have been doing this for years. That's my Hacker News story in a sentence also.

ornornor 5y ago

It’s a fact that people are biased to other people based on first impressions/looks/skin color. Try as hard as we might, I unfortunately think it’s human nature. Police is very strongly biased the world over, even if it’s not PC to admit it. That said, I’m fairly certain that you’re allowed to decline showing your ID if you’re being stopped for no reason by police, but they can then take you to the station for identification you or let you go. And it depends on the country. In France I remember it’s very common for the police to “randomly” stop a certain kind of people and ask for ID on the spot. The picking of the “random” people wasn’t legal because as you might have guessed they were not so random, but police was allowed to card and anyone had to comply while on French territory.

vinay427 5y ago
> Police is very strongly biased the world over, even if it’s not PC to admit it. Do you mean that the PC view is that 1. the police are not strongly biased (which doesn’t fit the view of political correctness at least in the countries where I’ve lived) or that 2. the police are only strongly biased in certain countries but not the world over? Or something else?
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  While the Right has weaponized “political correctness” as an attack on the Left specifically, it has also been used more broadly in reference to consistency with the dominant political orthodoxy in any context.