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Obviously I don't agree with the guy but I do think Russia invading Ukraine has woken up the west a bit in terms of human nature. Those in the chattering classe

Obviously I don't agree with the guy but I do think Russia invading Ukraine has woken up the west a bit in terms of human nature. Those in the chattering classes in the us tend to think (in my experience at least) that we can mold humans, and this is an example of where taking things too far has backfired (no pun intended). I do wonder how this will shape current children's worldviews

sbinthree 5y ago
Cannot see current children viewing the current leadership class as worthy...
rektide 5y ago
Who is molding who in this threat model you describe? What human nature need we be cautious of here? In my view, the West's only wake up is that they are right, 100%. Ukraine began a low long slog to kick off corrupt, useless authoritarianism. The government was shocked & surprised when they pushed for authoritarianism & anti-European policies & got serious kickback during the Euromaidan color-revolution, the revolution of dignity. People resisted molding then: in that we agree. But human nature was to seek democratic ideals, to let our voices free, to cast off molding from the state then. And that's still the heart of what petrifies & goads Russia into this vile war: Russia has to believe in molding people, has to believe it can exert top down control over people. Russia is insecure that it cannot shape human nature. Human nature, in a connected world, has perspective to understand iniquity & injustice & illegitimacy & the individual works to better mold society towards a more healthy & self-legitimizing state/State. The chattering classes have been right about their own virtue, about how vile sad corrupt & unjust the alternatives are. What we are seeing is someone unwilling to be molded by the this superego desire for betterment. That person is not moldable, they are set in their ways, but to think that there is not a malleability, a flux within society, is exactly the wrong lesson to take out of all of this. This is a gasp against flux & change & re-molding.
awb 5y ago
I’m not quite sure what to make of your comment. It’s broad criticisms and ambiguous as to who you’re referring to. As far as children go, they nearly universally want peace. I saw a quote from one kid finding the countries on a map: “Russia is so big, why do they need more?” That’s the level kids are thinking at.

sbinthree 5y ago

Cannot see current children viewing the current leadership class as worthy...

rektide 5y ago

Who is molding who in this threat model you describe? What human nature need we be cautious of here? In my view, the West's only wake up is that they are right, 100%. Ukraine began a low long slog to kick off corrupt, useless authoritarianism. The government was shocked & surprised when they pushed for authoritarianism & anti-European policies & got serious kickback during the Euromaidan color-revolution, the revolution of dignity. People resisted molding then: in that we agree. But human nature was to seek democratic ideals, to let our voices free, to cast off molding from the state then. And that's still the heart of what petrifies & goads Russia into this vile war: Russia has to believe in molding people, has to believe it can exert top down control over people. Russia is insecure that it cannot shape human nature. Human nature, in a connected world, has perspective to understand iniquity & injustice & illegitimacy & the individual works to better mold society towards a more healthy & self-legitimizing state/State. The chattering classes have been right about their own virtue, about how vile sad corrupt & unjust the alternatives are. What we are seeing is someone unwilling to be molded by the this superego desire for betterment. That person is not moldable, they are set in their ways, but to think that there is not a malleability, a flux within society, is exactly the wrong lesson to take out of all of this. This is a gasp against flux & change & re-molding.

awb 5y ago

I’m not quite sure what to make of your comment. It’s broad criticisms and ambiguous as to who you’re referring to. As far as children go, they nearly universally want peace. I saw a quote from one kid finding the countries on a map: “Russia is so big, why do they need more?” That’s the level kids are thinking at.